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    COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDER LittleLebowski's Avatar
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    I have about had it with electronic powder dispensers

    Hornady Lock地鱈oad worked great with Varget, did terrible with H4350. Gifting to my shooting buddy whom is a PF member. New Frankford Intellidropper is easy to use and meters consistently .5 grain high with H4350. I opened up a support ticket with Frankford on Tuesday Oct 27th, still no response.

    So, what now? Just throw low charges manually with my Lee Perfect Powder Measure and trickle up? I知 afraid to drop the coin on a Chargemaster and get disappointed all over again. Maybe Frankford will get in touch with me and fix this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleLebowski View Post
    Hornady Lock地鱈oad worked great with Varget, did terrible with H4350. Gifting to my shooting buddy whom is a PF member. New Frankford Intellidropper is easy to use and meters consistently .5 grain high with H4350. I opened up a support ticket with Frankford on Tuesday Oct 27th, still no response.

    So, what now? Just throw low charges manually with my Lee Perfect Powder Measure and trickle up? I知 afraid to drop the coin on a Chargemaster and get disappointed all over again. Maybe Frankford will get in touch with me and fix this?
    My FA consistently throws .1 gr. light on loads under about 30 gr., with a variety of powders, but it IS totally consistent. Since most of my loading has been handguns and .223, I just add .1 gr. to whatever charge weight I'm throwing and it's right on. I talked to FA about this when I first go my dispenser, they know it's an issue with some scales, and are hoping to fix it in a future firmware upgrade. Other than that, I've been completely happy with mine, it'll be interesting to see how it goes when I start throwing heavier charges loading for the 6.5 Creedmoor. Later.

    Dave

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    I have the Chargemaster but I think anything in that $300 price range is mediocre. It works okay but I did the straw trick to it and let it warm up for at least 15 minutes before I start using it. Most of the time I am running 8208 and RL16 through it. I'm not as big of a Varget fan as a lot of others so I haven't even tried it.


    The Lee measure works pretty damn good with short extruded powders and ball powder but it will throw a wild one here and there. I did a test with the Deluxe model a few years ago with 8208. As long as I kept the hopper level around the midpoint, filling it every 15 rounds to the same level, it threw 50 charges with 48 being +/- .1 grains and two that were .2 and .3 grains off. You have to be very consistent in how you throw that lever.

    Sometimes if I am not worried about ultimate precision, say a 500 yard 223 load, I will throw them by hand. Throwing the load by hand and not confirming will definitely give you some velocity variation that can be seen at 500 but not enough to miss a 6" plate.
    -Seconds Count. Misses Don't-

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    I've had outstanding results with the Chargemaster, completely unmodified. Using primarily H4350 and RL16, but have also loaded .223 on it with Varget and Benchmark. On my last run with the chronograph, I tested 25 rounds of 6.5CM with RL16 under a 144-grain Sierra Matchking (purchased a bulk of 500 as I discovered I'd opened couple boxes of 140-grain ELD-Ms that I thought were full). I verified the LabRadar positioning and settings with a couple groups of the ELD-Ms, and got about the velocity and SD/ES I was expecting (7-8 SD per 5-round group). The five different loadings of SMKs ranged from an SD of 9 for the worst, all the way down to an ES of 4fps and an SD of 1.5. Yes--the top-end group was probably both very good and very lucky. But all 25 loadings were extremely consistent.

    The Chargemaster is magic. And I swore I'd never own one.

    Quote Originally Posted by SecondsCount
    It works okay but I did the straw trick to it and let it warm up for at least 15 minutes before I start using it.
    Any electronic scale needs to be warmed up and then calibrated before use.

    I've thought about the straw trick, but honestly, mine only fudges five or six charges out of 50. It's not a big deal to pour them back in and let it run again.

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleLebowski
    So, what now? Just throw low charges manually with my Lee Perfect Powder Measure and trickle up? I知 afraid to drop the coin on a Chargemaster and get disappointed all over again.
    I know how much you spent on your rifle.

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    And I would stop reloading before I went back to hand-trickling.

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