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Thread: A Man vs. A Movement. What's at stake. Trump v. Biden

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCM View Post
    Read what I wrote again. You need to separate BLM the organization and BLM the sentiment.

    While the Marxist organization cloaking itself in the guise of a racial justice organization is a brilliant move for the commies to insulate themselves from critics, the problem is there are real problems with race and policing in this country which the marxist BLM organization will not and cannot address.

    So if the commies stole “BLM” as a false front for the communist agenda where does that leave black people ? Fucked again by a bunch of Marxists who leveraged tragedy for their own agendas the expense of black people.
    This is the page I am on as well. Thanks for explaining it so succinctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnO View Post
    There rarely is a perfect candidate. Politics is generally a choice of the lesser of two evils.
    I have been thinking about this lately - when was the last candidate you (you the entire group, not John specifically) voted for because you thought they would be a good president?
    Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC_P View Post
    I have been thinking about this lately - when was the last candidate you (you the entire group, not John specifically) voted for because you thought they would be a good president?
    George HW Bush

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    Agreed. However, BLM as a movement (and sentiment) is not focused on saving black lives or making them matter. It is an anti-law enforcement movement that defends violent criminals who have brutalized and killed people, including black people. E.g. Patrick Kimmons.
    https://www.kgw.com/article/news/loc...a-bc62bc016706
    https://www.justice.gov/usao-or/pr/r...arm-possession

    If BLM was about black lives, supporters would have celebrated the officers who took Kimmons down. This is the main reason I do not support the BLM movement, and why I am upset that Democrat politicians are supporting it.

    Quote Originally Posted by HCM View Post
    ...You need to separate BLM the organization and BLM the sentiment.

    While the Marxist organization cloaking itself in the guise of a racial justice organization is a brilliant move for the commies to insulate themselves from critics, the problem is there are real problems with race and policing in this country which the marxist BLM organization will not and cannot address.

    So if the commies stole “BLM” as a false front for the communist agenda where does that leave black people ? Fucked again by a bunch of Marxists who leveraged tragedy for their own agendas the expense of black people.
    “There is no growth in the comfort zone.”--Jocko Willink
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    Speaking of what is at stake:


    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem...d-the-pentagon

    Democratic House candidate pushes 'defund the Pentagon' idea to fund social services
    Missouri's Cori Bush took the concept of defunding police to another level


    Democratic Missouri congressional candidate Cori Bush suggested Tuesday that the federal government should take a cue from the recent movement to defund the police by doing the same to the U.S. Department of Defense.

    Bush, a progressive candidate who defeated 10-term incumbent Rep. William Lacy Clay, D-Mo., in her party's primary earlier this year, took to Twitter with the idea of reallocating Pentagon funds.

    "If you're having a bad day, just think of all the social services we're going to fund after we defund the Pentagon," Bush said.
    Bush's post was retweeted by Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., and drew support from People for Bernie, a group supporting democratic socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt.

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    I am concerned about the climate too. But then I read Chakrabarti, chief of staff of AOC: “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal,” he said, “is it wasn’t a climate thing at all….we really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.”. So, it is not about the climate.

    I am also against racism. I am in inter-racial marriage FWIW. But then I read the BLM website and see those people shouting “No border! No Wall! NO USA at all!” So, it Is not about racism.

    I am also for gay rights and pro-gay marriage. But then I see a presidential candidate surrendering to the radical left saying it is okay for 8 years old to decide about changing their gender (And taking puberty blockers?). Moreover, if anybody in medical/academic field objects this idea, then this person would get fired. (Is anybody here willing to prove me wrong, BTW?)

    I am also an atheist. But then I see that it is considered cool to trash and make fun of Christianity but for some reason, but not of Islam, for example. So, it is not about religion either.

    I realize that not only was I deluded, but I was led into an absurd intellectual hole where objective truth is subordinate to radical and quite old Marxist theories used as political propaganda.

    So even without 2A and absurd economic theories of the left, I am done with the Democratic party for good.

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    A related video


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    Quote Originally Posted by cheby View Post
    I am also for gay rights and pro-gay marriage. But then I see a presidential candidate surrendering to the radical left saying it is okay for 8 years old to decide about changing their gender (And taking puberty blockers?). Moreover, if anybody in medical/academic field objects this idea, then this person would get fired. (Is anybody here willing to prove me wrong, BTW?)


    In an article from Politico (bold emphasis added by me)

    "Deckman said her research across two surveys of adult-age members of Gen Z reveal that though a majority identify as heterosexual, roughly 1 in 4 identify as gay, lesbian, bi-sexual, transgender or “genderqueer.” With respect to gender identity, in both of Deckman’s surveys fewer than 5 percent of Gen Z Americans identify as not being cis-female or cis-male."

    This Critical Gender Theory being pushed is clearly going to mess up tons of people. I'm fairly sure that past studies have shown stable but significantly lower percentages of the population that would be in the LGBTQ+ category, so something else beyond being born a certain way is clearly at work here. Also, from my understanding this ideology also is against the right for gays and lesbians to marry. I do recall recently seeing trans folks also complaining about the theory hurting them, though the specifics escapes my mind at the moment but just to show that it's not just the L & G population that's being impacted.

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    What's Biden position on hydrosonic missiles?

    "We have hydrosonic missiles that go seven times faster than a normal missile," Trump told a crowd in Arizona on Monday. "We have the best hydrosonic in the world."
    Yo! Semite Park - have to go see it, sometime.

    Back to ignoring the shit show till I wake up on the day after Election day to see what happens. Decided arguing about the candidates is a waste of time. Just will make fun, if it moves me.

    Shoot 'em in the leg! Won't hurt with a double barrel 12 gauge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn E. Meyer View Post
    What's Biden position on hydrosonic missiles?



    Yo! Semite Park - have to go see it, sometime.

    Back to ignoring the shit show till I wake up on the day after Election day to see what happens. Decided arguing about the candidates is a waste of time. Just will make fun, if it moves me.

    Shoot 'em in the leg! Won't hurt with a double barrel 12 gauge.
    You're making about as much sense as Biden here...

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