ATF issues cease and desist on Q LLC Honey Badger Pistol

[RevolverRob]

sooner or later the ATF is going to stop fucking around and pick some random dude/company/gunshop to prosecute for this shit, and even when that "victim" prevails they're unlikely to do so with their financial butthole in-tact.

Part of me hopes it's Q they go after.

Because to be honest, I think Q is a company that can prevail against the ATF, in this regard. I know Kevin Brittingham isn't everyone's favorite person, but Q has both the social media presence and the attitude to go after the ATF with a team of attorneys and STAY ON THEM by keeping things public. They don't have the same level of resources that a huge company has, but probably have more willingness to fight. As far as the folks at Q are concerned (and KB is concerned), most of those folks have already been through the ringer a few times with corporations and the ATF. If they lose the fight and Q goes under, everyone involved will land on their feet; that isn't true for any random joe.

[StraitR]

Some additional insight here. One clear takeaway from Kevin's comments, is that the <13.5" LOP is a criteria for braced pistols.

[LittleLebowski]

This is very impressive on Q’s part.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CGDjl-QB...=1i7pz79ahll1s

[StraitR]

[Rex G]

Well, this was the kick-in-the pants I needed to finally order a Tailhook. I had actually tried, earlier, but none were to be had. The Tailhook adds no length to the buffer tube, so keeps the LOP of my LAW-foldered DDM4 V7P measurably less than 13.5”. The early-version SB Tactical brace that was provided by Daniel Defense does add length.

[Casual Friday]

Well, this was the kick-in-the pants I needed to finally order a Tailhook. I had actually tried, earlier, but none were to be had. The Tailhook adds no length to the buffer tube, so keeps the LOP of my LAW-foldered DDM4 V7P measurably less than 13.5”. The early-version SB Tactical brace that was provided by Daniel Defense does add length.

This is a good setup and how I run mine with a VLTOR A5 pistol kit. Fixed LOP well below 13.5" and is still very usable without feeling cramped up.

Attachment 61435

[Xhado]

Looks like Geissele has pulled their braced pistols from their webstore...

https://geissele.com/rifles/super-duty-rifles.html

[texasaggie2005]

Looks like Geissele has pulled their braced pistols from their webstore...

https://geissele.com/rifles/super-duty-rifles.html

Their response on arfcom regarding this;

[Xhado]

Their response on arfcom regarding this;

Good to hear that the sky isn't falling quite yet.

[Old Man Winter]

This is very impressive on Q’s part.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CGDjl-QB...=1i7pz79ahll1s

It is impressive and yet they're getting questions like the following on their IG:

What are your intentions regarding compensation for the restrictions of movement that accompany ownership of an sbr?