Beretta 92D w/ 92X Grip

[oregon45]

How do the Lok grips compare in terms of thickness to the VZ 92 grips?

[backtrail540]

But I also notice that at that pace I am not having to muscle the gun all over, it just settles back in to place and I fire again and it all seems to happen at about the speed I can work the trigger. It's a kind of low stress kind of feeling and I like it.

My sentiments exactly!

[CraigS]

Doc you have to try a 12 or 13# spring. I am not sure how the bobbed hammer compares to a skeleton hammer but I have never had a failure to fire w/ a 12 and skeleton.

[Doc_Glock]

Doc you have to try a 12 or 13# spring. I am not sure how the bobbed hammer compares to a skeleton hammer but I have never had a failure to fire w/ a 12 and skeleton.

I used a 13# in a Centurion Tactical and had some failures to light euro ammo. Went to D spring and have never had an issue since. Supposedly it will work better with the solid firing pin but who knows.
@e_stern do you know which hammer spring the 92DXR ships with?

[e_stern]

I used a 13# in a Centurion Tactical and had some failures to light euro ammo. Went to D spring and have never had an issue since. Supposedly it will work better with the solid firing pin but who knows.
@e_stern do you know which hammer spring the 92DXR ships with?

They are receiving the standard 92D spring.

[Doc_Glock]

I just want to drop this summary here in case anyone cares:

Beretta 92 Hammer Springs:

Factory stock: 20#
D Spring: 16# Stock in LTT Elite, Langdon M9 and D models
14#: should be pretty reliable
13# Reliable except occasional hard NATO primers ~7.5#DA
12# competition only ~6.5#DA
11# Federal Primers only 5.5#DA

PX4 D spring is not the same as a 92 D spring and is about equivalent to a 12# 92 spring.


Reference:

[Doc_Glock]

More updates:

I received the Hogue Wrap around grips today super fast from Hogue direct.

The Good: They fit amazingly well, and really fill the hand. The measure about the same size as the Beretta plastic grip.

The Bad: I didn't read the fine print and ordered the smooth version of this grip. And, let me tell you it is smooth. Not enough texture to grip. I called Hogue and they were super helpful, directing me to the checkered version, and offering to swap mine out provided I ship them back and pay the difference. Done.

For reference, this is the smooth: https://www.hogueinc.com/grips/beret...cus-dark-earth

This is the textured: https://www.hogueinc.com/grips/beret...cus-dark-earth

They also both come in boring black. Order with confidence that they will transform the Vertec into a standard Beretta grip.

No photos sorry, they don't even have them on their website.

I also installed various hammer springs and measured the pull on my digital gauge:

Factory D spring: 9#DA
13#: 8lb DA
PX4D: 7.25lb DA

Of note, the D hammer spring in my old police trade in 92D and Langdon M9 settled in to 7.75# on each. The PX4 D spring settled in to 7.5# on the Cent Tac. No idea why pulls are so much higher on this particular DXR.

[Doc_Glock]

I also installed various hammer springs and measured the pull on my digital gauge:

Factory D spring: 9#DA
13#: 8lb DA
PX4D: 7.25lb DA

Of note, the D hammer spring in my old police trade in 92D and Langdon M9 settled in to 7.75# on each. The PX4 D spring settled in to 7.5# on the Cent Tac. No idea why pulls are so much higher on this particular DXR.

Late Edit: the PX4 D spring settled in to 6.5# pull on the Cent Tac.

[Bigghoss]

Beretta 92 Hammer Springs:

Factory stock: 20#
D Spring: 16# Stock in LTT Elite, Langdon M9 and D models
14#: should be pretty reliable
13# Reliable except occasional hard NATO primers ~7.5#DA
12# competition only ~6.5#DA
11# Federal Primers only 5.5#DA

FWIW for anyone looking for data points, I ran about 500 rounds through a 92A1 with a 12# spring and never had a light strike. Hammer spring was the only thing not stock on that gun. Mostly, if not all, Winchester Forged ammo.

[Doc_Glock]

FWIW for anyone looking for data points, I ran about 500 rounds through a 92A1 with a 12# spring and never had a light strike. Hammer spring was the only thing not stock on that gun. Mostly, if not all, Winchester Forged ammo.

I just realized I ran 1600 rounds through a Cent Tac with PX4 D spring (equivalent to a 12# Beretta 92 spring) without issues and a lot was euro ammo. I thought it was a 92 D spring when I installed it, but the trigger is simply to light for that to be true.