Who is price gouging the ammo?

[Borderland]

Bob Ward's in Missoula today. Best pricing I have seen in a while.

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I'm not sure but I think that price is about the same as it was 10 years ago. If I were buying ammo I think I would have to buy 3 or 4 cases at that price. Just in case things get weird next year. Being an election year and all.

I deleted the political comment just in time.

[Paul Blackburn]

Where is 223 Gold Dot?

[RJ]

I don't get to this metric as often as I used to, perhaps every month or three with interpolations in between. But refreshing the same search on Ammoseek this morning, cpr seems to be stable at around $0.19.

[ST911]

This is a time of plenty.
Now is the time that next year many will look back on and think, "I shoulda..."
If you're new to party, learn from others.
If you learned from the last circus, you're planning and buying.
If you think it'll be different this time, don't come back complaining.

[willie]

I've not seen price gouging locally. Places that have always had high prices continue in this practice. Oddly, well heeled customers keep on plunking down their money. Supply/demand dynamics will determine what we see, of course, with internet sales. My large volume lgs is now seeing a steady stream of people entering with guns to sell-- nice guns. Further, sales have decreased, and this trend began in the Spring. An obvious statement is that the gun market suffers from a supply overload made worse by the man in the street selling personal firearms because he's broke.

[358156hp]

I've not seen price gouging locally. Places that have always had high prices continue in this practice. Oddly, well heeled customers keep on plunking down their money. Supply/demand dynamics will determine what we see, of course, with internet sales. My large volume lgs is now seeing a steady stream of people entering with guns to sell-- nice guns. Further, sales have decreased, and this trend began in the Spring. An obvious statement is that the gun market suffers from a supply overload made worse by the man in the street selling personal firearms because he's broke.

Agreed. This is the time for us little guys to buy, not to sell. It's not difficult to imagine that the next round of shortages could be interminable. I think some of the guys who are waiting for pricing to return to normal will end up disappointed. I still can't wrap my head around $1000.00+ N-Frames, but unless something magical happens we may see these times as "the good old days".

[Suvorov]

I don't get to this metric as often as I used to, perhaps every month or three with interpolations in between. But refreshing the same search on Ammoseek this morning, cpr seems to be stable at around $0.19.

I’m not seeing sub .20 brass case 9mm anywhere from a legit retailer. Seems .26 is the standard online for new manufactured “name brand” ammo. Freedom might be lower as well as the Hungarian Republic brand but only around $10 a case…….

[willie]

Agreed. This is the time for us little guys to buy, not to sell. It's not difficult to imagine that the next round of shortages could be interminable. I think some of the guys who are waiting for pricing to return to normal will end up disappointed. I still can't wrap my head around $1000.00+ N-Frames, but unless something magical happens we may see these times as "the good old days".

Manufacturing costs including but not limited to expense of labor, raw materials, quality control, facilities maintenance, pensions, marketing, and other inflation related variables have brought about $1000 N frames. The newer Smith revolvers aren't finished as nicely as many of the older guns but are stronger and more robust mechanically. Smith has turned out a bunch of crappy products since the 1960's. The older products caused the same moaning and groaning. Big police depts had factory trained armorers to correct defects, and this fact is one reason that the law enforcement trade in revolvers work so well. I've made peace with Mimmed parts and have learned that these newer Smiths will smooth up with use. If I were to buy one and got a good specimen, I would send it to a known specialist and specify certain action work in addition to having chamber throats and forcing cone examined and honed if they were not right. Further, I would definitely not permit a refinisher dude to touch it. After I got the N frame like I wanted it, I would do the same with a Ruger Single Action.

By the way, I've cast, loaded, and shot many 1000's of the Lyman 358156 bullet in your user handle and loaded them in 38 Spl cases with the bullet crimped in the lower crimp groove.

[Navin Johnson]

Bob Ward's in Missoula today. Best pricing I have seen in a while.

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Doesn’t seem like “gouging” at that price

Cheapest, I’ve seen around here for BB is 14

Seems to be the most prevalent brand right now.

I would be a buyer for 1K at that price point

[Hambo]

Bob Ward's in Missoula today. Best pricing I have seen in a while.

That's good, as in ten cents a round cheaper than here locally, but still not pre-RiotDeathPanic price.