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    Quote Originally Posted by rojocorsa View Post
    Will I be safe ALSO loading a Berry's 158gr plated FLAT POINT to 4.5grs HP38/231?

    Safe in that I can shoot these with confidence in my mid 50s steel K-frames?
    Depends on the overall length. I’m pretty sure that’s +P territory at standard OAL, but that’s from memory so it needs to be checked. Seating it more deeply would increase the pressure.

    K frames with a model number are supposed to be okay with +P, I’d back off a bit if it’s a pre-number gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revchuck38 View Post
    Depends on the overall length. I’m pretty sure that’s +P territory at standard OAL, but that’s from memory so it needs to be checked. Seating it more deeply would increase the pressure.

    K frames with a model number are supposed to be okay with +P, I’d back off a bit if it’s a pre-number gun.

    Normally I would have just settled for 158 LSWC but these days you buy what you can find.

    I figued if 4.0-4.5 was OK for a 158gr LSWC then it would be also OK for a plated FP (within reason). Obviously im asking for advice to be safe, etc.




    Loading for a 1950 Pre 14 and a 1954 Pre 15 and a (1956?) Pre 36. Im not worried about my no dash '81 686.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rojocorsa View Post
    Normally I would have just settled for 158 LSWC but these days you buy what you can find.

    I figued if 4.0-4.5 was OK for a 158gr LSWC then it would be also OK for a plated FP (within reason). Obviously im asking for advice to be safe, etc.




    Loading for a 1950 Pre 14 and a 1954 Pre 15 and a (1956?) Pre 36. Im not worried about my no dash '81 686.
    I’d look through your reloading manual to see if there’s a load similar to what you’re planning. More so for accuracy than for pressure. Cast bullets don’t generate as much pressure as jacketed and plated in equivalent weights and charges. I don’t thing there is a huge difference but it is noticeable on the chrono.
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    Hodgdon shows 4.3 grains of 231/HP-38 as the max standard pressure load with a 158-grain XTP. It gave 779 fps from a 7.7” barrel, OAL was 1.455”. Just FYI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost River View Post
    That is Awesome!

    I might also consider providing them each a single stage reloader as well and a few basic tools to fill those empty cases back up. You never know, we seem to be heading in the direction of many Socialist countries. Teaching those little Wolverines the skill sets to manufacture ammo for themselves may be one of the greatest gifts of all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes Peart View Post
    I hate to break it to you but the hollow doesn't "add" anything. 148 grains of lead takes up .85 cubic cm of volume. Period. If both are seated flush with the case mouth with the same powder charge, the free internal volume for combustion will be exactly the same. Period.

    Any "space" added by the hollow base is offset by the skirt extending farther back inside the case. Until you can violate the laws of space and time, you'll never magically be able to have more space inside the case without seating the bullet past flush.

    The only thing that changes is ever so slightly more bearing surface of bullet touching barrel due to the skirt which I doubt amounts to anything significant.
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