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    Week 387: Modified LAPD D-Platoon Qual

    Week 387: Modified LAPD D-Platoon Qual

    Results may be posted until September 28th, 2020.

    Modifications by: backtrail540
    Range: 3-25 yards
    Target: 3x5 card and B8 repair center, download here: https://pistol-forum.com/attachment....1&d=1322428748
    Start Position: Shooter’s choice of ready, holstered, or concealed
    Rounds Fired: 36

    Set up the B8 repair center as the scoring zone for the body and the 3x5 as the scoring zone for the head. Feel free to affix them to a silhouette target if desired, but those will be the scoring zones for the drill. You may choose a start position of ready, holstered, or concealed, to comport with your range’s rules and adjust the difficulty level of the course of fire.

    25 yards – Shoot 2 body, 4 second par, repeat twice (three total reps)
    15 yards – Shoot 2 body, 3 second par, repeat twice (three total reps)
    10 yards – Shoot 2 body 1 head, 3.5 second par, repeat once (two total reps)
    7 yards - Shoot 2 body 1 head, 3 second par, repeat once (two total reps)
    5 yards - Shoot 2 body 1 head, 2.5 second par, repeat once (two total reps)
    3 yards - Shoot 2 body 1 head, 2 second par, repeat once (two total reps)

    Score the B8 repair center using the scoring rings. A hit to the 3x5 is worth 10 points and a miss is worth zero. Overtime shots count as zero points. There are 360 possible points.

    Please report the following when you post your results in this thread:

    Equipment used: gun, holster, concealment (if any)
    Total score out of 360
    Anything you noticed

    Training with firearms is an inherently dangerous activity. Be sure to follow all safety protocols when using firearms or practicing these drills. These drills are provided for information purposes only. Use at your own risk.
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    So this is the LAPD "D" Platoon Qual "A" less the last 14 shots done on the move (not included on this version). Bolke and I have shot this for years during our training sessions and it's a great course. Qual A is properly shot with all starts from a proper low ready and that's how I ran it. If you have a shooter who can stay above 90% on this, they are very much good to go.

    Pistol: Glock 19 Gen 5 w/Ameriglos

    25 - dropped seven points (three 8s and a 9)
    15 - dropped two points (two 9s)
    10 - dropped a damn head shot and lost 10 points; also shot two nines
    7, 5, 3 - all clean

    Total Score: 339/360

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Dobbs View Post
    So this is the LAPD "D" Platoon Qual "A" less the last 14 shots done on the move (not included on this version). Bolke and I have shot this for years during our training sessions and it's a great course. Qual A is properly shot with all starts from a proper low ready and that's how I ran it.

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    I found where DB had posted about it here and lightfighter, while browsing old threads, as a modified version with an 8" circle and 3x5. I liked the sound of it and since ammo is tight right now, I've only been doing 50 rounds of centerfire at the end of a long rimfire session to affirm I'm not letting my grip go etc...I thought this made a great skills check that covered a lot of the bases.

    I had a stack of b8's and 3x5's so it made sense to include those and made it easy to track small gains/losses over time rather than hit/miss. I've been running it from the holster and my last two runs were 326 and 308 so plenty of room for improvement.

    I felt that for my needs the last 14 rounds could be put to better use and allow a bit of leeway if I need to do something else in my session so I omitted that portion. I appreciate you and db bringing drills like this to light so we can play with and modify them to our needs, great stuff.
    That's why it's a good idea, if your gun has iron sights, that it's got a red dot so that if your iron sights fail... you've got some way to aim - BigT

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    CZ p09 with kadet .22 kit
    JMCK aiwb 2.5
    button down shirt for concealment

    start position - from the holster, hands at fence/surrender/up in front of body

    Total score - 303 (had 2 shots overtime at the 3 yard line due to a malfunction where the kit didn't strip a round which cost me 20 in score plus pulled one off the 3x5 on the last run at 3 so 30 points were left just at the 3 yard line)

    25 - 3.65(-3) 3.97(-5) 3.09(-3)
    15 - 2.22(-1) 2.27(-1) 2.75(-2)
    10 - 2.96(-0) 2.88(-2)
    7 - 2.45(-3) 2.39(-0)
    5 - 1.96(-2) 2.17(-3)
    3 - 5.21(-20ot) 1.74(-12)

    Hard times call for the bulk of my practice to be rimfire so I ran it with my .22 conversion before running it centerfire. While my times are faster with the .22, I can still make the pars from the holster with centerfire, so I don't think I'm hurting myself too much running it rimfire. My points are only slightly better on the far strings and equal or worse inside 10 as compared to my previous run with the p09 centerfire. If it weren't for the malf, my rimfire time would have been down 3 from my last p09 time centerfire.

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    That's why it's a good idea, if your gun has iron sights, that it's got a red dot so that if your iron sights fail... you've got some way to aim - BigT

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    CZ shadow 2
    jmck aiwb 2.5 for p09
    concealed under a button down shirt

    start position - hands in fence/up in front of body/surrender

    Total score - 296 (had a light strike at 3 yard line that put me ot on 1 shot for 10 points)

    25 - 2.97(-13) 3.45(-11) 3.36(-2)
    15 - 2.58(-5) 2.71(-2) 2.84(-3)
    10 - 3.04(-2) 3.21(-1)
    7 - 2.51(-0) 2.55(-11)
    5 - 2.25(-2) 2.45(-0)
    3 - 2.26(-11) 1.91(-1)

    While the shadow 2 is just a fun gun for me, I only ran it today to get it out of my system before putting it away and focusing on carry guns only due to limited ammo. It doesn't like the steel cased ammo as far as light strikes go. Luckily I only had one light strike which was at 3 yards and cost me 10 points. I dropped 2 at 25 for 20 points down right away. Both were SA shots pulled right. Had 1 3x5 miss at 7.

    This thing drives slow, feels like steering a big old boat like an old cadillac as it is slow to respond and i simply called a bad shot as I pulled the trigger, not being even close to the 3x5. Simply a poor performance on my part. So an easy 40 points down due to poor performance of both me and the gun ala the light strike. I am going to play around with it next year (grips, dot, apex kit) but until then it's going back in the safe and I am going to stick strictly to my m&p's until the ammo situation comes back a touch toward normal.

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    That's why it's a good idea, if your gun has iron sights, that it's got a red dot so that if your iron sights fail... you've got some way to aim - BigT

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    GLOCK GEN5 19MOS w/ACRO and TLR8A mounted.
    Shot from ready on lit dept. indoor range, with a coworker after a short warmup.
    328 out of 360 points or 91%.
    This was a bit sobering; I slung one off the B8 repair at 25 yards, and to add insult to injury, 2(!)7s. I did not look at each string-will next time. At 10 yards, snatched a head shot into the “earlobe” at 10 yards. With the possible exception of the 2 second, 3 yard string, times are certainly reasonable. I was comfortably under par on just about every string.
    I like this drill, and will have at it again from the ready, and perhaps from an open holster. Will work harder at 25.
    Thanks to Mr. White and the gentlemen from Hits for sharing this.

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    Second run


    All ran from holster and under par times.... matter of fact....I should have slowed down on a couple.

    Big fan of this drill.

    Regards.

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    5" m&p 2.0 w/ 1.0 core upper and holosun 407c
    Dark Star Gear Orion
    Concealed under a button down shirt

    From the holster with hands up/surrender/fence start

    Total score - 315

    25 - 3.41(9,8) 3.34(10,7) 3.02(10,8) =52 points
    15 - 2.29(10,8) 2.55(10,10) 2.49(9,8) =55 points
    10 - 2.89(10,10,10) 3.16(10,9,8) =57 points
    7 - 2.48(10,9,9) 2.73(10,10,8) =56 points
    5 - 2.28(10,10,9) 2.33(10,9,8) =56 points
    3 - 1.79(10,10,0) 2.15(10,9,0-ot) =39 points


    I was doing great until the three yard line. I'm still learning to run a dot very close at speed. On the first run I didn't drive the gun high enough and called a miss. The last run I didn't drive the gun hard enough and went overtime. That left an automatic 20 points on the table. Even with those points down, it was my 2nd best score to date, with those points it would have been my PR. I'm digging running this after a day of rimfire as confirmation that I'm still running a center fire decently.


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    That's why it's a good idea, if your gun has iron sights, that it's got a red dot so that if your iron sights fail... you've got some way to aim - BigT

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    9/13/20

    HK P30 V1 LEM 9MM

    Shot CCW AIWB for all shots
    ——————————————————————
    2 BODY, done 3 times at each distance
    25yd 4 sec
    15yd 3sec
    ————————————————
    2 BODY 1 HEAD, done 2 times at each distance

    10yd 3.5 sec

    The following times were about 10% slow 0ver the par low ready times:
    7yd 3.0 sec
    5yd 2.5 sec
    2yd 2.0 sec

    HEAD

    1 MISS 3” X 5” STILL ON HEAD BUT HIGH
    10 X 7 = 70

    BODY
    X(10) X 2 = 20
    10 X 6 = 60
    9 X 15 = 141
    8 X 3 = 24
    7 X 2 = 14
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    TOTAL 329
    The black #s are the yardage particular shots were made from, so as to track my mistakes.

    I need to smooth up and correct errant shots to be all in head and black.


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    9/13/20

    HK P30 V1 LEM 9MM

    Shot CCW AIWB for all shots
    ——————————————————————
    2 BODY, done 3 times at each distance
    25yd 4 sec
    15yd 3sec
    ————————————————
    2 BODY 1 HEAD, done 2 times at each distance

    10yd 3.5 sec

    The following times were about 10% slow 0ver the following par low ready times:
    7yd 3.0 sec
    5yd 2.5 sec
    2yd 2.0 sec

    HEAD

    1 MISS 3” X 5” STILL ON HEAD BUT HIGH
    10 X 7 = 70

    BODY
    X(10) X 2 = 20
    10 X 6 = 60
    9 X 15 = 141
    8 X 3 = 24
    7 X 2 = 14
    ———
    TOTAL 329
    The black #s are the yardage particular shots were made from, so as to track my mistakes.

    I need to smooth up and correct errant shots to be all in head and black.


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