New York Seeks to Break Up National Rifle Association over Financial Malfeasance

[Wise_A]

This is more or less what NYS's anti-gun campaign looks like these days--less legislation, more thuggery. After they passed the SAFE Act, they were astonished when almost nobody complied with the registration component. They were embarrassed when their ammunition database collapsed on itself. Large portions of the bill wound up either getting successfully contested in court (bai bai 7-round magazine limit). Internet ammunition sales were supposed to be restricted, and all ammunition sales were supposed to require the equivalent of a NCIC check, but all we really got saddled with is "assault weapon" component. And even there, they were pretty mad when people started building compliant ARs. Their current strategy a la SAFE Act is to not say anything and leave law-abiding citizens too confused and scared to actually exercise their rights.

Of course, the colossal fucking elephant in the room--and this is key--law enforcement officers are exempt from all of the provisions. Kind've incompatible with current politics.

After the various legal challenges, and the absolute terror that that NYC lawsuit inflicted, their new strategy is thuggery using Leticia James' office of the attorney general. A couple weeks ago, they issued C&Ds against a bunch of retailers selling 80% receivers, claiming that they were "providing a means to circumvent the assault weapons ban". Yes, you can circumvent the useless ban using a finished stripped lower, or an assembled lower, or a complete rifle. The whole point was (A) to harass retailers doing business with NYS residents, and (B) engage in the favorite pastime of tyrants, building a list of people that can resist them. They're going with thuggery instead of legislation because legislation is easily countered by appealing in court, whereas thuggery is just a legal way to terrorize citizens.

Accompanying the "ghost gun" C&Ds is a pair of poorly-written bills, btw, to ban "ghost guns". They're named after one of the Parkland dead (ironically, a non-ghost gun using a 10-round magazine), and a 16-year-old drug dealer that got murdered by a rival gang of drug dealers (one of the shooters was also charged with another murder the same year, yay gun violence prevention!). These bills are classics--they ban the possession of "materials", 80% lowers, and also ban anyone other than a gunsmith from modifying a gun. Or--wait for it--disassembling and reassembling it, depending on how literally you interpret the dipshit things they wrote. They're into the assembly, although I'd not be surprised if they get killed so long as Joe Biden stays the hell away from supreme court appointments.

Anyways, sorry my tax dollars are being used to shit on everyone else's freedoms.

[blues]

It is beyond sad to see what NY has willingly become. I no longer have the words to describe the disappointment.

[Hot Sauce]

Their current strategy a la SAFE Act is to not say anything and leave law-abiding citizens too confused and scared to actually exercise their rights.

This is the essential summary of a lot of anti-gun moves in the Northeast, including this announcement by NY AG Leticia James, as well as a lot of gun control legislation in NY/NJ/Massachusetts.

While there's certainly something to be said for the dummies who write legislation without having an understanding of the subject matter, and this does happen a lot, I think the net effect is known and intentional. If you create a patchwork of laws that don't leave clear answers for citizenry about what is and isn't legal, it dissuades reasonable risk averse people from practicing their 2nd Amendment rights. And when practice of said rights becomes less common, the mentality of "guns are bad, for any reason" spreads, and that's one more winning notch in the culture war.

We may not like the adversaries, nor their methods, but we have to admire the results they've been able to achieve. Firearms are a hush-hush topic in the largest population centers in the country, where people need them as much if not more than elsewhere.

[Eric_L]

Just wondering who will pay the defense bills.... oh, the membership will. ( I am a member. )

[Glenn E. Meyer]

I would like to add to Larry Correia's list. It is time that one demands that their legislators take an active hand in proposing and fighting for bills that promote gun rights. The GOP has been abysmal in this regard. Can anyone remember the debacle on the HPA and reciprocity? Have you heard anything about them? There was the SAGA act to negate state AWBs and Mitch didn't let it get to the floor or serious debate. They spent tons of time passing bills to get rid of Obama care that had no chance of passing just to make a point.

It seems the strategy from Congress was wait for SCOTUS to do their job. We see how that worked out.

When they had control of the House and Senate progun bills should have been brought up, passed in the house and thrown in the face of the filibuster. Milder progun laws like the HPA should have been attached to necessary legislation.

About fund raising - I don't know if this is a good fund raiser. It might be if you drill down in their core marketing slice, but that further isolates them from being more inclusive and a long term loser. The Socialists are going to take away Wayne's perks isn't a good story. Decent execs would resign for the good of the cause and a new set swear to clean house.

[Borderland]

It is beyond sad to see what NY has willingly become. I no longer have the words to describe the disappointment.

It isn't just NY. Our AG banned WA residents (me) from participating in https://www.armedcitizensnetwork.org/. The AG effectively sued the org. as an insurance company not in compliance with WA ins. code. Bob Ferguson was behind that 100%. I think that's part of the NRA suit also, selling insurance to people who CC.

I guess they think that people won't CC if they can't find insurance for legal representation in a shooting. I doubt that will be the case. I did it for about 20 years without insurance.

They'll probably go after the CMP next. Another org. that I support.

[blues]

It isn't just NY. Our AG banned WA residents (me) from participating in https://www.armedcitizensnetwork.org/. The AG effectively sued the org. as an insurance company not in compliance with WA ins. code. Bob Ferguson was behind that 100%. I think that's part of the NRA suit also, selling insurance to people who CC.

I guess they think that people won't CC if they can't find insurance for legal representation in a shooting. I doubt that will be the case. I did it for about 20 years without insurance.

I'm aware of the issue in WA...as CCW Safe stopped offering their service there as well.

I mentioned NY because it was my home for most all of my first 35 years on the planet. It wasn't always what it is now.

[Borderland]

I'm aware of the issue in WA...as CCW Safe stopped offering their service there as well.

I mentioned NY because it was my home for most all of my first 35 years on the planet. It wasn't always what it is now.

Looks like you may have bought some time but nobody is really safe from this absurdity.

I find it ironic that dems are trying to pass legislation to require firearms owners to carry liability insurance and at the same time restrict their ability to get it. Catch 22.

[ralph]

It might be interesting if the NY AG's office was negotiating with the NRA before filing the suit. If so and the negotiations for a settlement were not successful, the suit might be a means of putting pressure on the leadership to resign and/or pay restitution. I believe LaPierre and company would burn the NRA down before taking a personal hit or income cut.

You’re exactly right.. Wayne won’t leave until he’s pumped every dollar out of the NRA that he can..If, in the future the NRA pulls its head out of its ass, gets rid of Wayne, and the oversized board of directors, moves out of NY, reorganizes, and refocuses on their primary mission, then I could support them..But, until then, not a dime..

[NEPAKevin]

Maybe someone could start a rumor that when Jeff Epstein died, all the evidence he had against the Clintons was secretly sent to Wayne.