It was the video “Recoil Management Series”. I’ll have to go through and watch it again. The Humble Marksman also has an interesting video on recoil management that he put together using input and references from other top level shooters. That’s an interesting watch as well. It seems those dudes are doing similar things to what GJM is describing. Not crushing the gun, immobilizing joints as much as possible.
I am just here for the knowledge bombs. Lots to unpack for this D shooter.
This thread reminds me why I support pistol-forum as a Site Supporter. Thoughtful nuanced discussions like this on the technical aspects of shooting by respected members, are hugely beneficial to beginners like me.
I’ll go back to listening now.
Some of have been push-pulling and locking the wrists for a long, long time now. That has a name... Bieber? Heever? Jeever? Something like that. I can’t remember.
The way Hwansik is gripping is not really like anything anyone else is doing, and it's definitely not like the Weaver stance. You have both hands on the gun and that's about it for the similarities.
High speed video from the side of the gun, while experimenting with what is required for a good grip is helpful. Figuring out what the feeling is when the wrists are properly tense is the next step. That took a while, but now I know what it feels like. Interestingly, fist pushups with a not-so-tight fist seem to help as well.
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I wrote the following in a Facebook group I am a member of:
This comes after trying to analyze my shooting, using drills and tips I picked up from Ben's books and videos. I was way too often over-gripping with my firing hand, and under-gripping with my support hand.I want to offer up some thoughts on handgun recoil control, and my approach to it.
I see a lot of shooters advocate flaring your elbows, torquing wrists, involving the entire arm, shoulders and chest in order to manage recoil.
Personally, I manage handgun recoil with my hands, with most control being from the support hand. My firing hand has a firm grip, but not so much that I cannot isolate my trigger finger.
Too much tension in the firing hand can lead to pushing shots down due to sympathetic recoil anticipation, as well as trigger freeze.
I'm not sure that the effort required to involve almost the entire upper body produces such drastically different results with a handgun. The gun, with a proper grip, doesn't flip that much, and does not require a lot of movement to get back down on target.
You should just let the gun do it's thing in recoil, making sure that you maintain your grip throughout the string of fire.
Keep it simple I guess.
I was also guilty of extreme post-ignition push, causing follow up shots to land low on target.
Here is a video of a recent Bill Drill, I shot it in 1,75 seconds with all A's:
1st shot: 1.02
2nd: .17
3rd: .13
4th: .14
5th: .14
6th: .15
I don't really see the practicality of shooting splits fast as I do in that video, but I am pretty consistent shooting this drill clean in 1,8X from 7.
I shot three Bill Drills at the end of practice today (no video), and I shot a 1,85 clean, a 1,65 with 1C and a 1,59 with 3C (Classic IPSC with tapered A-zone).
From a practical shooting perspective, shooting sooner is better than shooting faster. On the last two strings today my draw was sub 0.9 seconds.