Proposed class: "Self Defense & the Law - Practical Applications"

[Mitchell, Esq.]

Love it. Having gone through one of your awesome "on the phone" lectures, I really dig the idea of realistic/simulated case studies after the lecture, complete with cop interviews and maybe a mock mini-trial.

In fact, I'd like to see a case study evolve during the lecture, where you tell more and more of the story as the lecture progresses, so you kind of weave the story into the lecture. For myself, I think that would breathe some life into the theoretical/lecture part and help me retain it and apply it during the case studies that follow.



And I might fly to CT for the class if you call this block of instruction "Press Out or Punch Out?"

I do not believe I can accommodate your wishes for an ongoing story, as my lecture is more of a fundamentals lecture, and using a scenario runs counter to what I believe is an effective way to learn.

Scenarios are brittle teaching tools when it comes to classroom or lecture. Change one fact in the scenario and things break down.

I prefer to teach from a fundamentals of law point of view, and as far as I've been able to play with the material, I see it as either-or in lesson style.

However...The class name will be changed to accommodate you*!

Which Sunday in July 2013 is good for you - 14th, 21st or 28th?




In all seriousness...I'm setting up a class with scenarios after the lecture in which sims will be available.

I was introduced to a local Simunition instructor (I checked simunition's webpage to verify he's on the "Approved Range Program" list, and he is - http://simunition.com/en/range_progr...es/Connecticut - Chris Fields, King 33, LLC) and I'm going to be offering the class with/through him.

I may have a police officer do the post shooting interview if I can arrange it. I have someone in in mind, but if he's not available, I'll need to make alternative plans for a police officer.

Same topics as before for the lecture (it has been tweaked); however, 3 scenarios will be acted on.

These will be scenarios in which a no-shoot option may (sometimes the right answer is to shoot...or sometimes not.) be available.

A student in the scenario will have to respond to the situation with the rest of the class observing for a post scenario breakdown of the justification for actions taken according to the material presented in the lecture.

If I can get a police officer to conduct a brief post incident interview, so much the better. That's not firm yet.

In essence, you get your scenario, but after the lecture on law.

If you can suggest a better way to do it, please do.

I'm estimating 5 to 5.5 hours for this. Cost anticipated to be $65 to $75 & $1/sim round used.

*(OK, no, it's not...It's still going to be self defense & the law...)

[jar]

In essence, you get your scenario, but after the lecture on law.

If you can suggest a better way to do it, please do.

I'm estimating 5 to 5.5 hours for this. Cost anticipated to be $65 to $75 & $1/sim round used.

Sounds similar to what Jon Green and the late Darius Arbabi did for GOAL's "Art of Concealed Carry in MA" class when I took it years ago. I believe Jon is still teaching the class in the same format. They used blue guns in the classroom for the scenarios though. Sims may be a distraction (need for protective equipment, getting mired in the tactics issues instead of the legal ones) from the perspective of a pure law class, but a law + sim scenarios class certainly has merit too and may get more people to show up.

[shootist26]

keep us updated on this class. I am a definite in. July/August is basically completely free for me.

[Mitchell, Esq.]

Its yet to be scheduled but will be soon, so if you have a date preference please let me know.

[Odin Bravo One]

In all seriousness...I'm setting up a class with scenarios after the lecture in which sims will be available.

Same topics as before for the lecture (it has been tweaked); however, 3 scenarios will be acted on.

These will be scenarios in which a no-shoot option may (sometimes the right answer is to shoot...or sometimes not.) be available.

A student in the scenario will have to respond to the situation with the rest of the class observing for a post scenario breakdown of the justification for actions taken according to the material presented in the lecture.

In essence, you get your scenario, but after the lecture on law.

If you can suggest a better way to do it, please do.

I'm estimating 5 to 5.5 hours for this. Cost anticipated to be $65 to $75 & $1/sim round used.

The scenario after the lecture certainly makes a lot of sense. No point putting students into a situation where the material hasn't even been covered yet. Most of the time. But, having been in similar classes, as well as incidents, I have found that the covering the fundamental law portion, followed by the scenarios (video taped), and finish the course with the post-shooting lecture.

So basically you get the information you need. Scenario practical exercise to "show" situations/scenarios and how the law needs to influence the decisions and decision making process. The scenario is executed, and concluded with the post-shooting interview (also taped). Finish the course with post-shooting legal information, some case law examples, and "how to", "do's and do not's" for the interview after a use of force situation.

This allows the student to get the legal knowledge they need, apply what they learned, and then feel the pressure of having to justify their actions, recall sequence of events, details of the incident etc., immediately following the event. By giving them the opportunity to interview prior to that part being covered in the course, it exposes the student to their own mindset, and how they think, versus simply performing a dialogue based on an instructors ideas and what they as students were taught. Knowing yourself, and how you view things without outside influence can be a very important matter, and is extremely useful information when trying to articulate why you felt you needed to kill someone.

Each student gets a copy of their own scenarios, and interviews to take home with them & review on their own time, after the lecture on post-shooting procedures so they can self-assess in addition to the debrief/feedback they received at the time.

The actual shooting is the easy part of a lethal force encounter. Reading the situation, correctly interpreting the situation, applying fundamentals of the law into the decision making process, executing the decision, then answering for, and justifying the actions you took is where many people find themselves lost, confused, in trouble, etc.

But that's just me...........either way, it should prove to be a most informative and beneficial course for anyone fortunate enough to attend.

[Mitchell, Esq.]

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See 7/21/2013

It should be fun...