https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...-heckler-koch/
Hopefully they use the word “liberal” in a way different than me.
“We want people to be able to live safely. Our products are designed to protect people in liberal, democratic countries from threats and violence. Heckler & Koch is the leading manufacturer of handguns for the NATO and EU countries and is proud that its assault rifles are standard equipment for many European armed and security forces.”
Likes pretty much everything in every caliber.
Same dude still in charge, since 2018. They still hate you, but I’d expect good products when you get one.
/pedant mode onOriginally Posted by GJM
In much of the world "liberal" just means "free market friendly."
/pedant mode off
REPETITION CREATES BELIEF
REPETITION BUILDS THE SEPARATE WORLDS WE LIVE AND DIE IN
NO EXCEPTIONS
I still expect no compromise from them
"The victor is not victorious if the vanquished does not consider himself so."
― Ennius
And it still fired. Because it's an HK.
The quote is a machine translation from German. This is the original text:
heckler-koch.com/de/presse/detail/article/luxemburger-finanzholding-cde-uebernimmt-mehrheit-an-traditionsreicher-waffenschmiede-heckler-koch.html:
So "liberal, democratic" is the machine translation of "freiheitlich-demokratisch". The German adjective "freiheitlich" means "pertaining to freedom", "in a free way" (en.wiktionary.org/wiki/freiheitlich). "Freiheitlich-demokratisch" has a meaning in connection with the German constitution:Wir wollen, dass Menschen sicher leben können. Unsere Produkte sollen Menschen in freiheitlich-demokratischen Ländern vor Bedrohung und Gewalt schützen. Heckler & Koch ist der führende Hersteller von Handfeuerwaffen für die Staaten der Nato und der EU und stolz darauf, dass seine Sturmgewehre zur Standard-Ausrüstung vieler europäischer Streit- und Sicherheitskräfte gehören.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_democratic_basic_order:
I'm not sure, what "liberal" means in English, I'm German. I suppose, originally it also means "pertaining to freedom" but nowadays it is sometimes used with a perverted meaning. Is that true?According to the German constitutional court, the free democratic order is defined thus:
The free democratic basic order can be defined as an order which excludes any form of tyranny or arbitrariness and represents a governmental system under a rule of law, based upon self-determination of the people as expressed by the will of the existing majority and upon freedom and equality. The fundamental principles of this order include at least: respect for the human rights given concrete form in the Basic Law, in particular for the right of a person to life and free development; popular sovereignty; separation of powers; responsibility of government; lawfulness of administration; independence of the judiciary; the multi-party principle; and equality of opportunities for all political parties.
Last edited by P30; 07-22-2020 at 05:48 PM.
Thank you for that P30.
In the USA, "Liberal" actually means "on the left (socialist/egalitarian/"anti-rascist") side of the political spectrum. In the US the Left is a whole lot better at political manuverimg than the Right, and managed to co-opt the word "liberal" to describe themselves.
Amongst Political Science programs in US universities, the term "liberal" still means "valuing freedom" and is often an antonym of egalitarian.
Ironically, "liberal" in the US means "NOT classically liberal" or "valuing equity over liberty". Very confusing.
In the US the term "liberal" is also misused. It has come to mean the progressive left or the Democratic party (the party of more gun control). The term "conservative" has been used to describe the Grand Old Party or Republican party and until recently supported the second amendment and the right to keep and bear arms.
I don't think HK markets to the US consumer that much. I think their primary marketing here is to law enforcement and the military, not so much to the average citizen. Generally they're too expensive for the average beer swilling, pick up driving American. /S At least that's my take on it. I'm sure many will disagree with that.
In the P-F basket of deplorables.
I like this German definition of freedom:
"Jeder kann tun und lassen, was er will, wenn er keinem anderen schadet."
In English:
"Everyone can do whatever they want, if they don't harm anyone else."
I don't think that Hillary Clinton and people like her want to promote freedom in this sense.
Just bring back the P7!!!!!
(yes I know. Highly unlikely)
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