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    Per original directions.
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    From concealment.
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    P-09 / 507c /
    From Ready. 297 w/ several Xís.
    From concealment. 296 w/ several Xís.
    Par times are pretty generous, IMO. I made the comfortably from both ready and concealment.

    Both 8 ring ďmissesĒ were DA at 25 yards. So, work to do there.

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    Tried again - same gear and similar result.

    265 - 1M @ 25

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    To work on trigger control, I tried Dot Torture at 3 yards. 47 is pretty good for me. The shots I dropped were from task loading (rushing ahead), not fundamentals.

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    Any suggestions from the audience?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun Nerd View Post
    Tried again - same gear and similar result.

    265 - 1M @ 25

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    To work on trigger control, I tried Dot Torture at 3 yards. 47 is pretty good for me. The shots I dropped were from task loading (rushing ahead), not fundamentals.

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    Any suggestions from the audience?
    Use a B8 start at 3 yards, fire one shot into the x five times from the ready (as in come up fire a shot, follow through with a second sight picture and then bring the gun back to ready). When you get all 5 shots in the X in a row twice move back to 5 yards same goal, then 7 yards with the same goal, then 10 should be X majority nothing outside of the 10 ring, then 15 with majority X nothing outside the 10 ring then 20 yards say 9 or better, and lastly 25 all in the black is the goal.

    X is really the goal up to 20 but it takes time and practice. This walk back drill will focus on grip, trigger, and sights and by breaking it down each shot you will be able to work on your consistency.

    Another good thing to do is walk down and check the target between each shot maintaining your firing grip on the pistol.

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    Thanks. The peculiar thing is that I didnít have this issue with previous guns. Itís not surprising that the DA/SA trigger is different from the Glock 19 I shot in 2017-19, but I also didnít have this happen in 17 years shooting a SIG P229. Iím wondering if my grip is a little off or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun Nerd View Post
    Thanks. The peculiar thing is that I didnít have this issue with previous guns. Itís not surprising that the DA/SA trigger is different from the Glock 19 I shot in 2017-19, but I also didnít have this happen in 17 years shooting a SIG P229. Iím wondering if my grip is a little off or something.
    So DA/SA I would do it DA only and then you can mix SA in, like one DA one SA one DA one SA one DA for the five shots.

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    P30SK V1. Fenix 147g
    279. Well under time limits.

    I shanked one off the B8 from the 25 yard line.

    2 years since I ran a LEM. Months since iron sights.
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    Frustrated by the other dayís experience, I decided to test whether it might be something about the gun - maybe the sights, or a failure to re-adapt to the DA/SA trigger. I shot the drills on two side by side targets, shooting my old Glock first oneach string before moving to the next yardage.

    LTT PX4CC: 258

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    G19 Gen 4, NY1 trigger/3.5 lb. connector: 260

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    So (as usual) itís not the gun. Things I noticed:

    I threw two shots at 25 with the Glock, vs. one with the Beretta.

    At 15, I went way too fast with both guns - like 7-8 seconds on the first string. And I went even faster with the Beretta, which is why I hammered all those rounds high in the 8.

    At 5, the Beretta came into its own. It just shoots so damn flat, and has such a crisp trigger, that I can just hammer them into the 10 as fast as I can pull the trigger. That stage made up a good bit of the cluster from the X to 6 oíclock in the 9.

    Overall, I think I just need to work on my follow through and harness those positive points to an appropriate cadence for the longer ranges.

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    I switched up this afternoon with a G45 and a T&E Holosun mounted. The Holosun is a Model 507C V2, with a C&H ďDefenderĒ plate. After consulting w @GJM, I initially zeroed with just the dot last week on dept. indoor range. 100+ rounds Sunday outdoors, ringing an 8Ē plate with just the circle.

    Today: Indoor range, lit. Sight set on just circle. All rounds under time. Winchester 147 gr. FMJFP.
    Score= 291 points. Less than a handful of ď8sĒ @25(2) and 15 yards(1). At 10, 7 and 5 yards, ALL Xs and ď10sĒ. I merely held the circle around the bull and worked the trigger. I am very pleased, and will continue to work with this setup.

    I also am grateful for the knowledge and advice of @GJM and others here. I would just offer one opinion to some others here: work on the accuracy before going for a lower time-jmho.

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    Iím happy Iíve been able to get to the range weekly to keep working on this.

    Langdon PX4CC today 253 - but with an asterisk because it actually reflects some improvement:

    • I had no misses at 25. I had two high left in the 7, two low right in the 7, and one in the 9.
    • Where I fell short was at 15; I over corrected for my hasty pace last time and only fired 4 shots in 15.11. So I subtracted 10 for the OT hit. If Iíd made all 5 in time, Iíd likely have cracked 270.
    • I also jerked a couple low at 10 and 7.

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