New 2 July 2020 SIG P320 Lawsuit and P320 Concerns

[KevH]

Agency released a safety bulletin regarding the ND. In a nutshell, a P320 Carry with Streamlight WML in a proper model Safariland 6300 series (SLS and ALS) discharged when a dangling male fastex buckle (approx 2.5") worked its way into the holster. There is a non-shareable video which shows the trigger being released with ease once the buckle is in place.

Not surprising. I'm willing to bet that 98% of these holstered ND's are something similar.

[Lon]

National Park Service

Thanks

[Bucky]

Today’s trial coverage:
https://www.youtube.com/live/AUD6EJqFF_4?feature=share

“This video is private”.

[ECVMatt]

This pretty much sums up what I and several other LE firearms instructors think. Sig has also lost all credibility with us due to their inability to accurately investigate this incident, but instead throw out their uninformed statement in an effort to CYA. They are essentially throwing LE customers and Safariland under the bus on this one. Not a good business move IMO.

Not me, but a well made video, and someone who took the time to evaluate the video correctly and in a forensic fashion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ6GUxpzXTI





TXPO

The Montville body cam/station footage might be the Zapruder Film of the Sig P320 saga......

[camel]

The Montville body cam/station footage might be the Zapruder Film of the Sig P320 saga......

Probably. Or it’s a knee jerk reaction because small town of small town funds. Doubt they have training besides minimal standards on a gun.

[breakingtime91]

didn't add anything

[breakingtime91]

This pretty much sums up what I and several other LE firearms instructors think. Sig has also lost all credibility with us due to their inability to accurately investigate this incident, but instead throw out their uninformed statement in an effort to CYA. They are essentially throwing LE customers and Safariland under the bus on this one. Not a good business move IMO.

Not me, but a well made video, and someone who took the time to evaluate the video correctly and in a forensic fashion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ6GUxpzXTI





TXPO

That video is disturbing to say the least. Thank you for the link.

[Lon]

“This video is private”.

Well, not sure what to do about that. It goes right to the video when I click on it. 🤷🏼*♂️

[KevH]

The Montville body cam/station footage might be the Zapruder Film of the Sig P320 saga......

The video proves nothing to me except there was what I suspected:
- A Safariland WML holster
- Pressure torquing the side of the grip at the moment the gun goes off

What likely happened was...

Foreign object that worked its way into the trigger guard
+
Contact (however slight with the face of the trigger)
+
Pressure applied to the gun to twist it in the holster enough to actuate the trigger
=
PoP!

Don't let SIG's stupid statement distract from the aforementioned.

[Polecat]

They need to just come out with a new design. Base it off the Glock , like Shadow systems and others are doing and move on. Could have a really nice, Safe and trustworthy system.