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Thread: New 2 July 2020 SIG P320 Lawsuit and P320 Concerns

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texaspoff View Post
    I have the same outcome with my 320's as you have described. None of mine exhibit the actions as the one in the video. The barrels are all still firmly locked against the breech face when the trigger bar is disconnected from the sear.

    an interesting point is, based on this video, and his particular example, tolerance stacking may make this possible with random 320's. you may have 1 in ever 10K pistols that can exhibit this due to the tolerance stacking.



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    I have the same results with my issued P320 which is stock, and my personal Wilson P320C, with a Gray Guns kit. They only "Fire" while the barrel is firmly locked against the breech face.

    We have nearly 500 issued P320's within the agency where I work, with no issues.
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    Sig wins summary judgement

    Sig has won summary judgement in one of the “uncommanded” discharge cases. I have included a link below.

    https://www.vitallaw.com/news/expert...6c927fcbce29b#.
    Last edited by roboster2013; 03-14-2024 at 10:16 AM.

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    I suspect this is how the majority, if not all of these cases are going to shake out in the end.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Texaspoff View Post
    I suspect this is how the majority, if not all of these cases are going to shake out in the end.




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    I would not bet against you. I thought the case was interesting for a couple of reasons. First, the plaintiffs did not go down the “my gun shot me without the trigger moving” road. They essentially acknowledge that there was trigger movement. Secondly, it was admitted by the first expert witness that he could not cause a P320 to fire without the trigger being acted upon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roboster2013 View Post
    I would not bet against you. I thought the case was interesting for a couple of reasons. First, the plaintiffs did not go down the “my gun shot me without the trigger moving” road. They essentially acknowledge that there was trigger movement. Secondly, it was admitted by the first expert witness that he could not cause a P320 to fire without the trigger being acted upon.

    That's the only thing these other cases have in their corner. The majority of these cases haven't shown the pistol firing without trigger movement, and most of them were in such a way that there wasn't any way to determine if there was trigger movement or not since they weren't visible.

    Unlike the drop fire issue, which was easily repeatable, none of these alleged uncommanded firings, have been able to be replicated. In LE circles, we call that a clue. Most likely operator error and not a defect.

    All this same shit applied when Glock went through this years ago. It's simply Sig's turn now. In another 10 or 20 years, it will happen all over again with some other manufacture.





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    And the drum beats on…

    https://www.nhpr.org/nh-news/2024-04...sauer-incident

    My personal non-professional take is that I don’t want any non-LE SKU P320s with the exception of my dedicated range X5 Legion. I still have the two I picked up a few years ago to try the platform (a black M18 and an AXG) but to be honest I’m not sure why I should keep them since they don’t get any use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyDuty View Post
    And the drum beats on…

    https://www.nhpr.org/nh-news/2024-04...sauer-incident

    My personal non-professional take is that I don’t want any non-LE SKU P320s with the exception of my dedicated range X5 Legion. I still have the two I picked up a few years ago to try the platform (a black M18 and an AXG) but to be honest I’m not sure why I should keep them since they don’t get any use.
    While I still remain skeptical of the 320...I'm not sure why you would remove your gun from the holster in the bathroom. This seems a little more suspect than the video (or videos?) of guns going off in holsters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cool Breeze View Post
    While I still remain skeptical of the 320...I'm not sure why you would remove your gun from the holster in the bathroom. This seems a little more suspect than the video (or videos?) of guns going off in holsters.
    While I am not in a position to comment on the merits of the current unintended discharge claims, I have never, ever felt the need to remove a gun from the holster while using a restroom. If the gun comes off, the entire gun/holster package stays together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillSWPA View Post
    While I am not in a position to comment on the merits of the current unintended discharge claims, I have never, ever felt the need to remove a gun from the holster while using a restroom. If the gun comes off, the entire gun/holster package stays together.
    Kind of hard to duty remove a holster from a duty belt.

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