New 2 July 2020 SIG P320 Lawsuit and P320 Concerns

[DpdG]

So you utilize the QLS on a duty rig?

Yes. Safariland rates it for duty use and I practice retention including the QLS.

[JonInWA]

Is it still the consensus that P320s manufactured after 6/1/2019 are good to go?

Yes.

Best, Jon

[roboster2013]

Yes.

Best, Jon

Thanks Jon.


Rob

[Tokarev]

I use the Safariland QLS you reference, but that is to facilitate my need to attach and remove my weapon frequently. I know many who won't use it for fear that the clip will fail in time of need. I would be surprised if this method is used with Police Duty Belts.

Uniformed police officers?

Anything can break. We had an agent some time back take a pretty good tumble. Somewhere along the way the bottom of his holster took a hard enough impact that it broke the bottom forks and pushed the holster up through the mounting bracket. This wouldn't have happened if he'd been using a non-QD belt shank.

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[AMC]

I agree with your practice of removing the holster with the gun when CCW. With heavy guns and belts during the limited experience I have carrying them, I really don’t like that laying on the floor of the bathroom (or porta John). I know a few who say they remove their weapon when taking a sit, but I know their are legions here with far more experience than me in this matter who can chime in.

Just another reason I really liked my tanker holster……

The QLS rigs were super hot at my old place, because the SWAT guys were using them. The guys using them claimed the 'standoff' the unit provided made their draw faster. In reality, it was cool guy gear. It was a problem because people were buying them and installing them by themselves.....doing an unauthorized modification of a department holster. I eventually approved the QLS-L (locking) version, because I'm sorry, but patrol officers have no reason to quickly take their holster off of their duty belt. I had one on one of my training belts, but that was solely because we were evaluating multiple different holsters at that time. I did NOT have one on my patrol duty belt.

[MDFA]

While I am not in a position to comment on the merits of the current unintended discharge claims, I have never, ever felt the need to remove a gun from the holster while using a restroom. If the gun comes off, the entire gun/holster package stays together.

An Optional Accessory at Gunsite, should you choose to use it. And they had them installed at the urinals... which I absolutely did not understand...

[Dave Williams]

An Optional Accessory at Gunsite, should you choose to use it. And they had them installed at the urinals... which I absolutely did not understand...

[Kanye Wyoming]

To those of you carrying a P320 securely in a vest pocket, beware.



Whole complaint here: https://storage.courtlistener.com/re....63200.1.0.pdf

[HCM]

To those of you carrying a P320 securely in a vest pocket, beware.



Whole complaint here: https://storage.courtlistener.com/re....63200.1.0.pdf

Maybe don’t put a gun with a short light trigger pull in a soft pocket instead of a holster ?

Also, if the plaintiff firearms experience is so extensive, why isn’t it detailed?

I can’t speak to all the incidents that are listed in this affidavit, but I can tell you that at least three of the listed incidents involving ICE are inaccurately portrayed omitting negligent actions by the individuals involved.

Just because the user did not intentionally pull the trigger with their finger doesn’t mean the trigger wasn’t pulled.

For example, the female agent who is pistol discharged while in the pocket of a purse. The gun was in a soft cloth pocket inside a purse full of other items, a parking lot surveillance video showed the agent tossing the purse into the backseat of her vehicle.

And at least one of the re-holster incidents the agent took his gun out in the office to verify the serial number for inventory. While re-holstering cloth from his untucked shirt getting caught in the trigger guard as he forced the gun back into the holster.

[TicTacticalTimmy]

I am a verified Sig Hater, but these last several incidents absolutely look like idiots trying to cover their mistakes.