New 2 July 2020 SIG P320 Lawsuit and P320 Concerns

[TGS]

Having a QLS solely for the fact that I can detach my holster and place it into the trunk of a patrol vehicle while entering a jail with an arrestee is worth it alone in both safety and convenience.

Can you actually do that in practice?

The ergonomics just don't work for me. I need to remove the entire holster/belt system from my body to be able to unlock the QLS forks. I can't reach up and around on both sides from the holster side of the rig.

[psalms144.1]

This is exactly the use I found for the QLS. When evaluating both different guns and holsters.

Same here. Every new platform I buy gets a JMCK RC or a cheap safariland ALS "paddle" holster, a QLS fork and off to the range we go.

[GJM]

Can you actually do that in practice?

The ergonomics just don't work for me. I need to remove the entire holster/belt system from my body to be able to unlock the QLS forks. I can't reach up and around on both sides from the holster side of the rig.

I don't know about the jail, arrestee and trunk part, but i routinely remove the QLS mounted holster with the pistol still in it, to switch to another holster and pistol.

https://youtube.com/shorts/usi27zKmS...N-76vLz5tXSyzz

[Lon]

On my AUG21 manufactured P320/M17 When reassembly is done in this manner, I get a dead trigger that cannot be reset by racking the slide. The only way to reset the trigger is to pull the slide back and then to engage the slide lock. An audible click is heard and then the trigger functions normally. Additionally - the trigger MUST BE reset using the slide stop before I am able to insert a magazine. In other words it would not be possible on my gun to load the gun from the magazine if assembled incorrectly in this manner.

Tried one of our spare 320s in the armory and got the same result.

[ddown]

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[sickeness]

Can you actually do that in practice?

The ergonomics just don't work for me. I need to remove the entire holster/belt system from my body to be able to unlock the QLS forks. I can't reach up and around on both sides from the holster side of the rig.

I do it on a daily basis, and I have the locking one as well.
I use two hands pinch inwards and out on each side and then lift it out.

I've been using one for about 5 years so I can't remember if it was difficult at first but its pretty much second nature to me at this point.

[GJM]

I do it on a daily basis, and I have the locking one as well.
I use two hands pinch inwards and out on each side and then lift it out.

I've been using one for about 5 years so I can't remember if it was difficult at first but its pretty much second nature to me at this point.

What is the "locking" one?

[4mykaren]

On my AUG21 manufactured P320/M17 When reassembly is done in this manner, I get a dead trigger that cannot be reset by racking the slide. The only way to reset the trigger is to pull the slide back and then to engage the slide lock. An audible click is heard and then the trigger functions normally. Additionally - the trigger MUST BE reset using the slide stop before I am able to insert a magazine. In other words it would not be possible on my gun to load the gun from the magazine if assembled incorrectly in this manner.

Additionally, I inserted a new dummy round into the breach by hand and attempted to fire the pistol by beating it lightly and performing press check. I was unable to observe any firing pin indentation.

Just Like this picture, after field strip:
The slide stop is locking the take down safety to the rear, keep the sear down and keep the take down lever in position.
During reassembly, lock the slide back (pushing up the slide stop), will release everything. Not a problem to me.
Use a dremel remove some material from the slide stop or take down safety(yellow arrows),if you don’t like it. Choose a cheaper part to modify. 😂
Even you can dremel off the tip of take down safety, after that just pull the trigger to lower the sear when field strip. Just like a Glock. Take down safety can not save a careless gun user every time, you can not fix stupid.

[4mykaren]

IMO I am not too worried about recent P320 safeties except:

1)
Everyone knows this, the trigger itself physical inertia when dropped at a certain angel.
So use light weight trigger shoe, don’t use lighter trigger bar spring, no lighter sear spring.

2)
As the picture shows, the striker safety spring is small and light, the block interface is small.
If the sear and striker leg are accidentally disconnected during a heavy drop, the striker safety may not strong enough to stop the momentum of the striker itself. So at least no lighter striker safety spring, no lighter sear springs. Improve skills not the trigger.

[sickeness]

What is the "locking" one?

One version has pegs you need to lift up and over hence "locking", the other one you just pinch inwards and lift.