50-100 meter/yards shooting

[rilumva]

I am trying to go beyond the 25meter line shooting my pistol.

At the 25 I am adequately skilled to hit 40-45 points consistently slow fire freestyle with a 5 round group (2"/5cm cluster in the bullseye)

My ultimate goal is to be able to hit a BC C Zone piece of steel reliably at 100meters (ie more than just a lucky shot)

I run a G17 with an extended threaded barrel from Lone Wolf, with Warrent sights, and feed it both regular and very hot 115gr ammo.

However I can't seem to hit steel at all from the 50 or further away. I attached a broom to my piece of steel to be able to seem my hits at 50-100 as I cant always hear it ring. Upon inspection I managed to hit the broom several times, but not a single hit on steel, making me think I aim too high.



I am POI at 25 (verified at the 25 with the steel today as well).

Where do you awesome shooters aim with a 9mm when at the 50+ (it seems I need to aim lower, but sounds crazy to me?)

Also, any other tips on getting me on steel (as there was some relief when I saw I hit the tiny broom, at least my windage wasn't off)

[ACP230]

At longer distances I often hold on the neck of a silhouette.
With a lot of my handguns .38 Special and up, that can result in a mid-silhouette hit.

Last time I tried snubs at 50 the M649s hit pretty well at that distance.
Tried some 100 yard shots with a two-inch S&W M15. I went high and right on a large, green, paper silhouette.
My son, the young whippersnapper, bullseye shooter, hit the middle with the whole cylinder.
Young eyes and good trigger control are a definite plus.

[Leroy]

Warrens typically have high POI at extended ranges, aim lower.

[Leroy]

But at 100 you will need to aim high most likely.

[jetfire]

Depends on the gun/sight combo. My Bianchi gun is set up for a six-o'clock hold all the way to 50 yards; something I take pains to verify before the match. The best way to figure out where your gun hits at 50 is to get a big roll of butcher paper, draw an aimpoint in the middle, and shoot groups at 50.

[fn/form]

Factory Mepros on my G17s were approx 6" high for me at ~45yds. Nowadays my goal is zero at 50m. The Ameriglo website has a front sight calculation tool for Glocks. http://www.ameriglo.net/sights/calculator

It gets me pretty close.

Every time our whole family gets together we have some long range pistol. The 6" .357s are a fav, and if you get the sun behind the bullet you'll track the slower chamberings all the way.

[justintime]

Most sight combos I've tried = slightly high poi at 50 that usually results in some form of 6 o'clock hold and a drive the dot style hold at 100.

[CCT125US]

My P30 with 10-8 RS and Dawson tritium FS, shooting Nato is zeroed at 25 yds using the top edge. At 50 yds it prints about 3in high. At 100 yds I am holding on the shoulder transition of the B/C zone..

[GJM]

Large paper targets, like the standard USPSA cardboard are your friend when you are working through POA/POI at distance. Also, ammo selection can make a large difference when you get outside 25 yards.

oops, missed Caleb's earlier post on paper

[Chuck Haggard]

My G17 hits to right about POA at the 50, I hold shoulder high at the 100 and can peg an IPSC sized steel target all day long.

There isn't as much drop as you might think;
http://www.speer-ammo.com/ballistics...x?loadNo=23617