Originally Posted by TCB
Right.
How much of the LE time the social workers save will be spent rescuing social workers in over their heads?
Right.
How much of the LE time the social workers save will be spent rescuing social workers in over their heads?
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New online college classes forming for social intervention undergrad degree.
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In the P-F basket of deplorables.
AMC, 100% agree on the intent of this. It’s not to free up hard charging cops by unburdening them from calls they should have never been sent to and get them back out on the streets hunting criminals. But a gal can dream.
Boldly go where no unarmed man has gone before will be their motto.
In the P-F basket of deplorables.
This is more accurate than most might think.
Agreed. I think the intent is to minimize police contacts with citizens...especially citizens who fit a certain demographic. The idea being that less contacts = less UoF. I’m convinced their goal is to effectively outlaw proactive LE and have cops sit at their stations like firefighters. Just work out and play video games until someone calls to report a violent crime in progress.
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There is an opportunity here to have an actual discussion on what sorts of runs that have either traditionally or recently been piled on the police's plate that might be addressed by non-sworn personnel. Given recruitment and training challenges many departments face, this is a discussion worth having even if the politics behind any given city's implementation are questionable. I locked this thread for now to give everyone a chance to see this, as I'd rather this not be wasted with a bunch of clutter, sidebars, and nonsense. I will reopen the thread at some point.
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My problem with this idea is where is the money coming from? I’m sure it will come from the police budget. So that means less police officers available to make way for social workers. When (not if) the social workers get assaulted and injured there will be workers comp claims. There will be disability claims. What about pay and benefits? I understand the thought process behind this idea but they are putting the horse in front of the wagon. Plus my on the job experience with social workers was that they were not big fans of the 24/7 schedule and The on call often would not come out.
My department had a ride along program for a short period of time (the chief had a side gig as a community college teacher so we got interns and community policing ride alongs) we had a local minister that came out on rice alongs more than a few times. He would offer help and counseling on our calls. It was funny and kind of sad watching people tell him to fuck off.
Societies social problems can not be solved by the police.
Last edited by Poconnor; 07-15-2020 at 02:37 PM.
Many are not amenable to having jobs where they are told to do things that they do not like. In my realm social workers have mostly been women with families where they served the traditional role of mother. There certainly is nothing wrong with this choice. These women are making essential contributions and giving back to society. Working shifts would be most inconvenient. Further in my town cops and firemen have incomes that are twice those of social workers. That was also true in my case of being a health inspector. The point is that those performing social work/shift work and then putting themselves in harms way will rightfully demand higher wages. So to start with, these plans will have growing pains, and after time, they may cost more than some thought. But I see how the idea has merit. At heart I'm a social worker type guy but one who has perhaps more street knowledge than most in this group. I see planning pitfalls, and I see bitter competition for funds.
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