Administration Denies Reconstruction Funding for MN

[Joe S]

And so, the kid in the South Bronx, who manages to get two consistent if crappy meals through school, and tries to hide out in the library in the afternoon (when they could, at least) so as to lessen the chances of getting shot or increase his chances of actually being able to study because he lives in the projects...he/she gets to suffer more, because our national priority is partisan politics rather than the betterment of our citizenry.

Please note, I'm not blaming one side to the exclusion of the other. I'm pointing out the downstream effects to people that are my neighbors, my employees, the pupils of some of my friends. I give a shit way more about these people than Barr or De Blasio.

Less obvious hopeless thought: has anyone with the chops to do it ever actually crunched the numbers about money distribution if NYC, or CA as a state pulled all the money they make? I'm curious how golden a goose Wall St. actually is to the national economy vs. Fed money that doesn't ever repair the potholes on the FDR.

[the Schwartz]

And so, the kid in the South Bronx, who manages to get two consistent if crappy meals through school, and tries to hide out in the library in the afternoon (when they could, at least) so as to lessen the chances of getting shot or increase his chances of actually being able to study because he lives in the projects...he/she gets to suffer more, because our national priority is partisan politics rather than the betterment of our citizenry.

Please note, I'm not blaming one side to the exclusion of the other. I'm pointing out the downstream effects to people that are my neighbors, my employees, the pupils of some of my friends. I give a shit way more about these people than Barr or De Blasio.

I care about them, too. More to the point, besides those children depending on nutritional programs for their next meal, what about the kids being killed every weekend in cities like Chicago?—most of them are black kids in their mid- to late-teens and early twenties. They seem to have been lost in all of the noise.

If anything, the present state of affairs in these large metropolitan centers—all of them decades long bastions of highly liberal Democratic control—indicates that a certain socio-political model is the cause of these tragic conditions.

It'd be nice to remove politics from the equation so that we can serve at-risk kids, but that is unlikely to occur.

[TGS]

And so, the kid in the South Bronx, who manages to get two consistent if crappy meals through school, and tries to hide out in the library in the afternoon (when they could, at least) so as to lessen the chances of getting shot or increase his chances of actually being able to study because he lives in the projects...he/she gets to suffer more, because our national priority is partisan politics rather than the betterment of our citizenry.

Please note, I'm not blaming one side to the exclusion of the other. I'm pointing out the downstream effects to people that are my neighbors, my employees, the pupils of some of my friends. I give a shit way more about these people than Barr or De Blasio.

Less obvious hopeless thought: has anyone with the chops to do it ever actually crunched the numbers about money distribution if NYC, or CA as a state pulled all the money they make? I'm curious how golden a goose Wall St. actually is to the national economy vs. Fed money that doesn't ever repair the potholes on the FDR.

It's not partisan politics, and the rest of the US is not to blame for NYC being a failing semi-socialist utopia collapsing in on itself, or the fact you guys cut $180 million (correction: $400m) from your own school budget this summer.

Your appeal to emotion is bullshit, plain and simple. The USG cannot be expected to continually hand out money to states with no surety, and no reasonable expectation that they'll act as competent government. This transcends partisan politics, and is plain as day basic functions of governance. Perhaps effectively governing to begin with instead of pandering to political votes and then turn around crying "but partisan politics!" is the correct course of action.

Ironically, the entire purpose of this is the betterment of our citizens, starting with basic law and order...the first, foremost, and most essential function of government.

[JRB]

... I give a shit way more about these people than Barr or De Blasio.....

Then stop fucking voting for assholes like De Blasio, and tell your friends and family to stop voting for them too. Volunteer in those schools or get involved on your own. Stop voting with your feelings for more pointless tax increases and feel-good happy sounding measures and start reading the actual legislation being proposed. Call your city and state representatives and make your piece heard on those issues. Countermand bad info when your friends and family bring it up.

I'm fucking sick of how legislation gets titled anymore - we could make a 'Save all the puppies' bill that guts funding for animal shelters and would make everything with Animal Control issues tangibly worse and more expensive in every way, but if you speak against it the first response is 'WHY DON'T YOU WANT TO SAVE ALL THE PUPPIES!?!?!?! YOU FUCKING MONSTER'. Because nobody wants to admit they know nothing about the legislation beyond the title, and nobody's humble enough to actually forward-think through a lot of the problems a given piece of legislation would create.
They just want feel-good votes to save the puppies and anyone voting against puppies is a monster, damn the actual budgeting and law and how shit would actually work - if you vote against a broken solution for the problem you're voting FOR that problem! Rah Rah Racists Rah!!!

These large metro areas keep voting in the same assholes over and over again on the same old fucking lies promising to make things better without ever making things better. They do it one broken piece of legislation at a time and nothing ever gets fixed, and it stays broken because they can always blame someone else even though they've been in power in those areas for decades.

Your pothole comparison is perfect - how many D-led tax increases keep talking about infrastructure like road improvements but never actually tangibly improve anything, but sure cost us working stiffs more in taxes?

Also, I'm getting sick of seeing people pretending that NYC or LA are somehow 'better' than any other city in America, when the fucking opposite is what's true and that's specifically because of how the politics turned LA, San Fran, Seattle, Chicago, NYC, and similar 'big name' cities into dangerous shitholes stratified between tent cities full of drug addicts shitting in the streets and wealthy enclaves full of millionaires getting efficiently taxed back the middle class to pay for it all.

So don't hang that bullshit on me and my tax dollars.

[Borderland]

This is a good discussion about how the OMB plans to cut the federal funds to these cities. Drop down and listen to the Jason Rantz interview.

https://mynorthwest.com/2156610/trum...riots-seattle/

Bottom line, and Vought says this, is it will all end up in court. So really the adm has no power to just enact their plan until the courts give them the green light. Also Trump has to get reelected. I would guess the odds against any of this happening is pretty high so getting all twisted up over it might be for naught.

I don't live in Seattle so I don't really care how any of this goes down. They run their own show down there.

[Hot Sauce]

Then stop fucking voting for assholes like De Blasio, and tell your friends and family to stop voting for them too. Volunteer in those schools or get involved on your own. Stop voting with your feelings for more pointless tax increases and feel-good happy sounding measures and start reading the actual legislation being proposed.

For what it's worth, in the two mayoral elections that De Blasio won, turnout was ~17-18% so statistically speaking, it's isn't most likely that him and his friends elected De Blasio, it's most likely that they didn't vote at all.

[Borderland]

Then stop fucking voting for assholes like De Blasio, and tell your friends and family to stop voting for them too. Volunteer in those schools or get involved on your own. Stop voting with your feelings for more pointless tax increases and feel-good happy sounding measures and start reading the actual legislation being proposed. Call your city and state representatives and make your piece heard on those issues. Countermand bad info when your friends and family bring it up.

I'm fucking sick of how legislation gets titled anymore - we could make a 'Save all the puppies' bill that guts funding for animal shelters and would make everything with Animal Control issues tangibly worse and more expensive in every way, but if you speak against it the first response is 'WHY DON'T YOU WANT TO SAVE ALL THE PUPPIES!?!?!?! YOU FUCKING MONSTER'. Because nobody wants to admit they know nothing about the legislation beyond the title, and nobody's humble enough to actually forward-think through a lot of the problems a given piece of legislation would create.
They just want feel-good votes to save the puppies and anyone voting against puppies is a monster, damn the actual budgeting and law and how shit would actually work - if you vote against a broken solution for the problem you're voting FOR that problem! Rah Rah Racists Rah!!!

These large metro areas keep voting in the same assholes over and over again on the same old fucking lies promising to make things better without ever making things better. They do it one broken piece of legislation at a time and nothing ever gets fixed, and it stays broken because they can always blame someone else even though they've been in power in those areas for decades.

Your pothole comparison is perfect - how many D-led tax increases keep talking about infrastructure like road improvements but never actually tangibly improve anything, but sure cost us working stiffs more in taxes?

Also, I'm getting sick of seeing people pretending that NYC or LA are somehow 'better' than any other city in America, when the fucking opposite is what's true and that's specifically because of how the politics turned LA, San Fran, Seattle, Chicago, NYC, and similar 'big name' cities into dangerous shitholes stratified between tent cities full of drug addicts shitting in the streets and wealthy enclaves full of millionaires getting efficiently taxed back the middle class to pay for it all.

So don't hang that bullshit on me and my tax dollars.

NM ranks #1 in the US for sucking up federal dollars (most federally dependent). NM "states residence" dependency for federal dollars also ranks #1. That would be each individual in the state.

Who be zoomin who here?

[JRB]

NM ranks #1 in the US for sucking up federal dollars. NM "states residence" dependency for federal dollars also ranks #1. That would be each individual in the state receiving federal money.

Who's zoomin who here?

I'm not using my state's fucked up corrupt gov't or their fucked handling of things to justify even more Federal money with an appeal to emotion based on student lunches. NM has damn near entire HS districts that are 100% free lunch Title 1 schools if we wanted to play that card, but I'd rather see the pork barrel bullshit curb-checked with a quickness and the existing funding we have handled much more responsibly. Furthermore, NM has never had the money or resources or clout of NY so we're pretty far from an apples to apples comparison about the socioeconomic situation between the two states.

Back to NM - I never see about 38% of my paycheck and I lose more of it every time I try to spend money here.

I'm voting actively in every possible election I can, with primacy on preservation/expansion of gun rights/self defense rights, and a secondary emphasis on being fiscally conservative. NM politics are a weird place but I'm doing the best I can.

[TheRoland]

The justification to include NYC here is pretty thin, IMHO. There wasn't significant long-term chaos, shootings are up only in the places that always have shootings, and the NYPD isn't exactly sitting on their hands.

[Borderland]

The fed wants to see some law and order in those cities and I get that. But cutting federal funds for things like lunch programs and highway construction doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense to me. All that's going to do is piss off a lot of tax payers, including me. I was involved with some pretty big road and bridge projects so I know how they get funded.

The people running those cities are lunatics of the first order but the fed has no business trying to coerce governors and mayors by withholding federal tax dollars from the average citizen because of something they have no control over, like elections outcomes. I'm in a minority where I live so should I suffer because of something my dumb ass governor did? I think not. That's my federal tax dollars being hijacked right along with the democrats tax dollars who voted for these dick heads.

Which leads me to believe that the federal government isn't my keeper and the sooner it gets marginalized the better. Actually Trump is making a grand case to cripple the fed gov't. which is fine with me. I'll stand with the state. At least I have some meaningful input.