Probably the most informative post in the thread, and definitely the saddest.Originally Posted by banzaijohn
Probably the most informative post in the thread, and definitely the saddest.
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I have not seen his Duty Tune DVD. I took his class in 2012 located Liberty Hill, Texas so I am sure he has some updated info.
Back then he was planning on having a more advanced class but that never panned out.
Every now and then I run into an issue and having his video might be a good resource.
I saved my class notes, but I moved in 2017 and I have alot of stuff missing. my notes likely got thrown away or placed with some Christmas ornaments in a box that I have opened in years.
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@AJZ, what say you from your perspective and experience?
Late to the party. Comments pertain to 5 inch, .45 all steel guns.
The two brands/models that I have seen that run from the box best have been Springfield and Dan Wesson.
The Springfield Professional as observed on FBI Regional SWAT guys over a number of training sessions.
I saw Dan Wesson 1911s hit the market in 05 or 06 as CZ has a corporate presence in my metro area. As such, I saw and competed against dozens of folks with them and saw those pistols run well with a fit and finish far above the price paid.
The general 1911 recs I make when asked:
>850 Ruger 5 inch
>1250 Springfield LB Operator
>1750 Dan Wesson Specialist
>2500 Springfield Professional
>3000 Wilson CQB
I suspect the new LV Springfield and any 5 inch DW 1911 in .45 would be just fine right out of the box as well.
As an aside, I know folks that have bought the very modest offerings from Springfield that have run well. I also have seen them not run well at all even with good mags and 230 FMJ> Springfield made them right, albeit with a trip or two back to the mother ship on SF's dime.
If I was in the market today for new, as I do not have a railed 1911, I would buy the LB Operator and not look back.
I’ve been to NH and met Bob and several other of their gunsmiths. They’re all good to go.
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You should look at a NH Thunder Ranch. My credit card was in serious danger.
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That said, I shot this year’s Alchemy wad on a Rattler and reloading setup...
Thanks. Yeah, the Springfield Professional seems to get good praise almost universally. Does anyone know if the FBI HRT still uses them, or have they since moved on?
Sorry if this thread annoys some people. I'm just trying to gain knowledge. I love my G19's and G21's and have the utmost confidence in them, but I feel like I'll always have an itch for a good hard use 1911 until I get one.
It is my inference that HRT has moved away from the 1911 to Glock 9mm platforms based on the regional guys I see in the office. IIRC, they actually moved to the Glock first and then 1911 came out of the field. Leading by example so to speak.
Minor thread drift-When the 1911 was the platform, some HRT guys carried a G21SF because of more BBs and a rail based on the comments from the former ASAC here that was HRT. Toward the end of the SF Pro utilization by FBI HRT and FBI Regional SWAT (and USMS SOG who piggybacked off the contract) the railed model was an issued item.
Very nice and more shooters features yes. Doesn't rile me up like the Colt though.
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