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    Useful Target Data or Nah?

    Is this useful data or is it just a fun target to do? Personally, it was fun but I can't see any type of usable metric here.



    Written text says:

    "1st round (with arrow) had brain fart, stopped after 1 shot."

    and,

    "1 miss" (14 rounds on target out of 15)

    EDIT: A better question is:

    Is it worth working on this?
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    How big is the target circle, at what distance was it shot, and in what time? Could be useful, could not be. Its in how you use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rd62 View Post
    How big is the target circle, at what distance was it shot, and in what time? Could be useful, could not be. Its in how you use it.
    8" circle @ 10 yards in 4.13 seconds

    I can work at getting a smaller group (well, first thing to work on is getting all 15 rounds on target) then a faster time, or vice versa but... is there any point to it?

    Thought of a better question to ask: is it worth working on this?
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    I guess that depends on the end game you are trying to accomplish.

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    Did this exercise include a draw? Concealment or retention holster?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViniVidivici View Post
    Did this exercise include a draw? Concealment or retention holster?
    Well, judging by the splits in the top right corner, not a draw (first time was 0.46, I believe)
    And, not a terribly relevant consideration, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay585 View Post
    8" circle @ 10 yards in 4.13 seconds

    I can work at getting a smaller group (well, first thing to work on is getting all 15 rounds on target) then a faster time, or vice versa but... is there any point to it?

    Thought of a better question to ask: is it worth working on this?

    Is this a "see how fast you can empty the gun into the target" exercise?

    Id suggest more shoot some, assess, proceed as needed or indicated by circumstances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GyroF-16 View Post
    Well, judging by the splits in the top right corner, not a draw (first time was 0.46, I believe)
    And, not a terribly relevant consideration, anyway.
    It's extremely relevant. This amounts to a 10 yard Bill Drill, more or less.

    If it involved a draw, decent, if not, not so much.

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    My opinion:

    If you can shoot quarter-second splits into an 8” circle at 10 yds, you seem to be capable of shooting reasonably accurately, fairly quickly.
    If you’re preparing for USPSA or IDPA, that level of accuracy will probably be fine.
    If, on the other hand, you’re wanting to increase your skill as a defensive shooter, I’d recommend moving to things like “the Test” (10 yds, 10 rds, 10 sec) on a B-8, looking for a score of 90 or better, with all the hits in the black. It’s a way to emphasize more precise accuracy over raw speed.
    Could then move to the “Half Test” (5 yds, 10 rds, 5 sec), with the same accuracy standards.

    Again, it all depends on what your goals are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViniVidivici View Post
    It's extremely relevant. This amounts to a 10 yard Bill Drill, more or less.

    If it involved a draw, decent, if not, not so much.
    Well, my point was, that given a .45 first shot, it was pretty clear there was no draw.
    And the following splits were quick, but not blindingly so. I just didn’t think that whether or not a draw had preceded it didn’t have much to do with the posted accuracy or splits.

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