Portland statue honoring Big George knocked down, defaced

[Borderland]

If Mexico had a trustworthy police and judicial system, it would be a serious option for me.

Camping south of Ajo AZ for awhile I saw many motor homes heading into MX. They have several places in Ajo where you can buy insurance for your vehicle before you cross the border. Many Americans winter in Puerto Penasco, MX on the Sea of Cortez.. I used to know a guy that moved down there and built an RV park and a marina. Last I heard he was still there. I think it's fine in the resort towns, border towns, not so much. If it weren't all those gringos wouldn't be spending the winter down there. Americans can now own property in MX. That changed a few years ago.

[Clusterfrack]

Interesting to hear some of you could live in Mexico. That's awesome, but we couldn't. I've spent quite a bit of time in 3rd world countries, and have no desire to live in one. Unfortunately, Portland is becoming a pocket of 3rd world poverty, ugliness, and unrest. I want to live somewhere that is affluent, clean, and safe--and where I have my freedom and the US constitution to protect it. Anywhere that has Mexico level corruption, or Euro style socialism is a hard no.

[Yung]

I hear Flagstaff is going to be in the mid-eighties next week.

[RJ]

I really wonder what happens after all the statues are knocked down, and all the schools renamed, and all the Army bases, and all the offensive movies deleted from the servers...

I mean, will everything be better then?

[TheNewbie]

Interesting to hear some of you could live in Mexico. That's awesome, but we couldn't. I've spent quite a bit of time in 3rd world countries, and have no desire to live in one. Unfortunately, Portland is becoming a pocket of 3rd world poverty, ugliness, and unrest. I want to live somewhere that is affluent, clean, and safe--and where I have my freedom and the US constitution to protect it. Anywhere that has Mexico level corruption, or Euro style socialism is a hard no.

My connection with Mexico is a little different, but it’s not a great option at this time. Lots of people have no issues down there, but lots of people do.

Mexico is a special place, but there are a couple of serious cultural changes, and a few government changes, they need to make before I would say it’s a better option.

Right now, the USA is still the best place on earth. We are a resilient nation who has fought through really bad times before. While I do believe that these times are some of the most perilous, I do think we can battle back. The odds are not as good as in the past, but we can still keep America as America if we work at it.

[Shoresy]

I really wonder what happens after all the statues are knocked down, and all the schools renamed, and all the Army bases, and all the offensive movies deleted from the servers...

I mean, will everything be better then?

No, it's setting the stage for the alternate narrative of history to be proliferated - you can't accomplish that if the original narrative prevails. Not "better", but "conditions met for the next phase".

[TheNewbie]

Meh. No place is perfect. My wife and I are getting pretty annoyed by all the antics here. But in some other place the weather would be as or more annoying. No way we could handle living in a hot, humid place without irritating mobs of social justice warriors, looters, vagrant campers, and right wing trolls.

The food, beer, and outdoor activities are still good, even though a lot of downtown is a no-go zone now. We have good friends here.

But, we are seriously looking elsewhere, and I'm running the numbers to see if I can retire a few years early.

My area of Texas is nice on the social side of things, but the weather is not pleasant for some. My wife was used to near perfect weather in Mexico City, but she is adjusting. Personally, I love going out in the extreme heat and working out or just working around the yard.

It’s an odd kind of love, because I hate it in some ways, but I appreciate for how it allows me to push myself. Of course I’m often too exhausted to enjoy my post hot weather time.

[cheby]

weather, food, beer..... I thought we were talking about ideas...

[Clusterfrack]

weather, food, beer..... I thought we were talking about ideas...

Not me. I don't care that much about ideas. Honestly I don't care what people believe. I care about actions, environment, and resources that affect me and my family.

I think the country would be a better place if people cared less about ideas. Unfortunately, everyone seems to want to tell other people what to think and how to act.

[Darth_Uno]

I really wonder what happens after all the statues are knocked down, and all the schools renamed, and all the Army bases, and all the offensive movies deleted from the servers...

I mean, will everything be better then?

Absolutely, because that’s what’s holding back minorities from economic advancement. (obligatory /sarcasm)

That is a real issue, and far more nuanced than I’m qualified to weigh in on, but tearing down statues and whitewashing - er, rewriting - history doesn’t put money in anyone’s pockets.