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    I just shared the video. Mrgunsngear is responsible for the title.

    This is what policing will become as seen on the sci-fi cartoon movie “Heavy Metal”,


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    The wife and I apparently just missed the festivities last night. We went to Little Five Points last night to get some Fox Bros Bar-B-Q. We did see a fire truck roll by not long after we got there, maybe they were responding to that Wendy’s. Thankfully encountered no protestors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nephrology View Post
    That's the way I am interpreting it, which is insane, because I fully expect to unintentionally maim or kill at least one patient over the length of my career and 4 weeks ago people were littering my facebook with stupid shit like this:

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    #RESIST

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    I’m glad that Wendy’s paid for its history of institutional racism.

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    #RESIST

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    Quote Originally Posted by fixer View Post
    Yeah ok I’m tracking... can you expand on the difference?
    With the understanding I'm not trying to be funny, not really beyond what's already been posted by Dan Lehr and what I had previously. In some ways it's like defining pornography with the famous "I know it when I see it" and it's going to vary greatly in different areas. My department has a "officer discretion" general order, so it's within the written rules to not always affect an arrest when legally allowed to do so. State law mandates an arrest in certain situations, though, and would override that. Nothing legally requires me to "win" if somebody flees, even if it's a mandatory arrest. If my supervisors think I'm not making a reasonable effort to do my job, then there's a host of internal regulations they can use to punish or recommend me for termination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Lehr View Post
    The police responsibility is to the general public. They have no obligation to protect individual persons absent a special relationship. As an example, if a women calls to report that her ex-husband has violated a restraining order and she is fearful he will return, if the police take a report, tell the women they will try to locate her ex-husband, and to call if he returns, they have not established a special relationship. On the other hand, if the same facts exist and the police tell the woman that they will have a patrol unit sit down the block to watch for her ex-husband to return, they have established a special relationship.

    So no, there was no duty to protect in this case.



    IMO, the two cases under which the officers actions fall under the purview of are Tennessee v. Garner and Graham v. Connor.

    In Garner, the Supreme Court held that the use of lethal force to apprehend a fleeing suspect (prevent escape) is a seizure under the 4th Amendment, and that as a result, the officer has to have probable cause to believe:

    1) the person has committed a felony involving the infliction or threatened infliction of death or great bodily harm;

    2) that the person will be a continued threat if they are allowed to escape;

    3) there are no other reasonable means to make the arrest;

    or

    4) the subject is using a deadly weapon to make their escape.

    So, if the officer claims to have used deadly force to prevent the escape of this guy 'protect the public' those elements would have to have been met.

    Read Garner, it is interesting: https://supreme.justia.com/cases/fed...pinion-1956044 (click 'case' for detailed analysis of the court)

    It is likely the officer fired to protect himself. IMO, under that circumstance the guiding case would be Graham. Graham is notable for making several notable distinctions as to how officers are judged:

    * The "reasonableness" of a particular use of force must be judged from the perspective of a reasonable officer on the scene, rather than with the 20/20 vision of hindsight.

    * And its calculus must embody an allowance for the fact that police officers are often forced to make split-second decisions about the amount of force necessary in a particular situation.

    * The test of reasonableness is not capable of precise definition or mechanical application. Its proper application requires careful attention to the facts and circumstances of each particular case, including: (this is known as the Three-pronged Test)

    1) The severity of the crime at issue;

    2) Whether the suspect poses an immediate threat to the safety of the officers or others; and

    3) Whether he is actively resisting arrest or attempting to evade arrest by flight.

    So, the crux of the matter is 'would a reasonable officer. having the same information, have perceived the necessity of using lethal force to protect himself/herself.'

    This is where dueling expert witnesses often come into the picture.

    Read Graham, the case from which this decision arose may surprise you: https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/490/386/ (again, click 'case' to get the insight)
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleLebowski View Post
    I’m glad that Wendy’s paid for its history of institutional racism.

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    Good, they should volunteer a few more of their franchises for sacrifice! I know where I'm not going to stop for fast food next time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagga Boy View Post
    The police invaded his Wendy’s Autonomous Zone and he was martyred as a freedom fighter for WAZ.
    The protesters in Seattle can't decide what to call themselves. Now they say they are not autonomous and never were looking to become autonomous. Some now prefer CHOP, or Capital Hill Occupied Zone. But there is even some confusion there. Some say it means Organized Zone.

    So it may not be WAZ. It could be WOZ. I think all of it should just be called OZ.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderland View Post
    The protesters in Seattle can't decide what to call themselves. Now they say they are not autonomous and never were looking to become autonomous. Some now prefer CHOP, or Capital Hill Occupied Zone. But there is even some confusion there. Some say it means Organized Zone.

    So it may not be WAZ. It could be WOZ. I think all of it should just be called OZ.


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