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Thread: California man seen pointing AR-15 at protesters arrested, charged with assault

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    To fight? Yeah, not seeing it in the video. Insinuation.

    American Flag patriots have as much right to be in the street, at the foot of their property, as those ‘protesters’ do...and defend their point of view.

    I don’t care about the legal facts of unjust CA socialist laws. Only that individuals have a right to not be intimidated by hostile organizers on private property.

    You side with who you like, the video shows me what I need.

    Plenty of good video over the last week to show me who is right and wrong, and who the law is applied too.
    Last edited by Patrin; 06-05-2020 at 07:59 PM.

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    I dunno. As a law-abiding armed citizen, I always kinda thought that it was incumbent on my to obey all the laws, not just the ones I liked, and that when carrying an implement of lethal force, that I should always employ good sense so as to preserve life. I have thus far managed to avoid whipping my gat out in public, sometimes through strong language, walking away from idiot situations at others, and very frequently, by not being someplace stupid to begin with.

    But I guess that just makes me a pussy.

    PS--A duty to retreat outside the home isn't exactly uncommon, and thus I wouldn't exactly call it an "unjust socialist law".

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    No, you’re smart. I’ve practiced the same for 17 years of carry.

    But if you find yourself with protesters that have a track record of ‘burning it down’, outside your home, I’m willing to give a brother a lil latitude.

    Now duty to retreat, socialist and wussy, but I’m in a stand your ground state, so I’m biased.

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    He brought a firearm to a situation where it was reasonable to expect conflict, when there was no need to be there in the first place. He didn't live at the house in question. He's not attempting to take up a defensive position, or retreat, or disengage. At the time, he was engaged in mutual combat, and should be punished as such. Would I prefer to see more "protesters" getting told to either calm down or go for a ride? You bet. But clearly, Bracken's actions constitute a threat and a hazard. To look at it another way, what would you do if one of the mob pointed a gun at you? Besides, just think about the thought process involved--"Imma go out and counter-protest, but I know those protesters are a violent sort, so Imma bring my AR with the 60-rounder!". Well, which is it? Is it a deadly situation, or an okay place to be?

    Thugs like Bracken undermine all citizens forced to defend themselves in a riot situation, whether it's the driver of a car that has to roll through a hostile mob, or someone required to work in a downtown office building that lawfully totes a travel-size AR. Just the same as the looters and terrorists undermine the misguided souls that are legitimately protesting. Although at this point, I would say that any lawful individual should be nowhere near these mobs.

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    The charge most likely will be reduced to brandishing. He didn’t point it directly at anyone. unfortunately, he will most likely be charged under one of the assault rifle statutes, and lose his 2A rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrin View Post
    To fight? Yeah, not seeing it in the video. Insinuation.

    American Flag patriots have as much right to be in the street, at the foot of their property, as those ‘protesters’ do...and defend their point of view.

    I don’t care about the legal facts of unjust CA socialist laws. Only that individuals have a right to not be intimidated by hostile organizers on private property.

    You side with who you like, the video shows me what I need.

    Plenty of good video over the last week to show me who is right and wrong, and who the law is applied too.
    Patron, agree with you. Patriots have as much right to be in the street, but given the current state of affairs, not a good idea. Too many variables, including the police. If a police officer had seen him, he could have been shot. I hope someone does a go fund me for his legal defense, I’ll chip in happily

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    Quote Originally Posted by BehindBlueI's View Post
    On my shitty laptop speakers it sounded like they were chanting "beat their meat" but I'm assuming that's not right...
    How can you have any pudding if you don't...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by revchuck38 View Post
    How can you have any pudding if you don't...?
    Or combine them and get "Meaty, Beaty, Big and Bouncy"
    There's nothing civil about this war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrin View Post
    Yes, the protesters, given their track record, quietly and politely walked by those waving American flags.

    I watched the video and remained unconvinced, as I know, and you should too, a cut of a video doesn’t tell me the entirety of the exchange.

    On private property, given the current climate of hate against even looking white and patriotic, I have no problem with him brandishing if he felt threatened and outnumbered by a hostile crowd in a state where LE has given permission to these ‘protesters’ to destroy private property.

    Stupid games, Revolver Bob, are a hostile organization to memorialize a career criminal, and use the negligent act of one Officer, to burn the country.

    ...and, given that still image, they’re pushing people to far, and these ‘protesters’ are not going to like the prize they might receive.
    Yeah, that's PC 245 in CA. No matter what your feels are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RevolverRob View Post
    Furthermore, this event happened in California, where a duty to retreat is absolutely necessary. The individual in question had AMPLE opportunity to retreat, obvious even from the edited video, and instead chose to arm himself and brandish that weapon at the crowd. He is the criminal in this situation, full stop.

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    I would like to point out that California, for non-peace officers, is a True Man, Old West state with no duty to retreat.

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