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    Backup Iron sights for MOS / CORE / CHPWS equipped pistols

    I seem to always want what does not exist and it seems I'm not alone.

    https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....back-up-sights

    I think the market is lacking regarding:

    * lower ~1/3 for MOS/CORE/CHPWS equipped guns. i'm not sure why most people would want to true cowitness with their RMR on a pistol but I'm only one person.
    * green, orange or yellow tritium front that is as thin as possible (usually ~.120") . something like a proglo orange, yellow and straight black would be great.
    * set screw rear with trimmed corners (like ameriglo, etc) with dual green (preferably yellow or orange) tritium rear with a ~.150 notch

    Anyone with me?

    From Suarez, to Redback One, to 10-8, Ameriglo to Dawson I can't find anything like this.

    This layout is my current rough draft for my 19.5MOS with my current training, knowledge, practice and daily routine. I currently have warren fiber optics on my 19.3, but i love the .120 proglo front, dual yellow .156 rear on my glock 43.

    (edited for a better explanation)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUZENE View Post
    I seem to always want what does not exist and it seems I'm not alone.

    https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....back-up-sights

    I think the market is lacking regarding:

    * lower ~1/3 for MOS/CORE/CHPWS equipped guns. i'm not sure why most people would want to true cowitness with their RMR on a pistol but I'm only one person.
    * green, orange or yellow tritium front that is as thin as possible (usually ~.120") . something like a proglo orange, yellow and straight black would be great.
    * set screw rear with trimmed corners (like ameriglo, etc) with dual green (preferably yellow or orange) tritium rear with a ~.150 notch

    Anyone with me?

    From Suarez, to Redback One, to 10-8, Ameriglo to Dawson I can't find anything like this.

    This layout is my current ideal for my 19.5MOS with my current training, knowledge, practice and daily routine. I currently have warren fiber optics on my 19.3, but i love the .120 proglo front, dual yellow .156 rear on my glock 43.
    When shooting irons only, I absolutely agree with the hi-viz (HD, Proglo, etc) tritium front sight. When used as backup/index sights in conjunction with an RDS I disagree. I want plain black because I don't want to look at them unless I have to. Hi viz front sight with a dot seems to negate that hole "target focus" advantage of the rds.
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    I think that's a fair point, and thank you. Other plan is to dim normal tritium (non outlined like proglo) them pretty well, such as a purple sharpie over green tritium like our very own Chuck Haggard does (not that he advocates sharpie to darken the vials, only to change color i recall).

    This would be primarily for the RMR going bad at night time, which of course, is probably pretty rare if i do my part to taking care of it while it rides EDC appendix. Daytime? I'm totally cool with black on black when used with RMR+MOS
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    Quote Originally Posted by ASH556 View Post
    When shooting irons only, I absolutely agree with the hi-viz (HD, Proglo, etc) tritium front sight. When used as backup/index sights in conjunction with an RDS I disagree. I want plain black because I don't want to look at them unless I have to. Hi viz front sight with a dot seems to negate that hole "target focus" advantage of the rds.
    Agree with both posts.

    Want a set up like OP's post but black front/rear irons.

    So far I haven't found anything like that, but @JSGlock34 mentioned this:

    https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....=1#post1026964

    Quote Originally Posted by JSGlock34 View Post
    I believe the GL-506 is the MOS lower 1/3 co-witness height, and the GL-429 is intended for direct mill mounts. That said, I think the GL-429 will serve on a MOS gun, but will be a little lower than the traditional 1/3 co-witness.
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    I'm not qualified like many here. But I don't find my tritium front with white outline distracting. Probably because my sights sit so low(gl411 on MOS ch precision ).
    I think if I could choose I would have Dawson's with a fiber green front and plain square serrated rear.

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    So I've been through a few iterations of optics guns and BUIS. When I started I wanted a hi-viz front sight like on my iron sight guns. Back then I was also using the "press-out" and a slightly muzzle high presentation, which worked well with the bright front sight, but proved a poor match for an optic.

    Personally, I don't want anything but the red dot and the target competing for my attention when presenting the pistol. I've since gone to all black Ameriglo BUIS. The GL-506 is the right height for MOS guns and places the rear notch at the same height as the deck of a RMR or SRO for a lower 1/3 co-witness. The GL-429 is intended for direct milled guns; the rear notch won't entirely clear the deck of a RMR/SRO on a MOS gun and is more like a lower 1/5 co-witness.

    The Ameriglo website isn't the best, but page 10 of the Ameriglo 2019 Catalog has some good information on their suppressor/optic sights. I'm not sure how a set-screw rear is going to work with the limited MOS dovetail real estate. Based on your description, I *think* a GL-815 is about as close as you'll find from Ameriglo.

    GL-815 3XL Tall Green Green Tritium 3 dot sight set black outlines .365" F .451" R

    The GL-691 would offer a Pro-Glo front but a flat black rear. I'm doubtful this is a thin ProGlo.

    GL-691 3XL Tall Green Tritium LimeGreenLumi Outline .365" front, FlatBlack .451" Rear

    ETA: Here's the chart from the catalog. Lots of options from Ameriglo.

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    I’m nearing the optic only, no back up irons at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke View Post
    I’m nearing the optic only, no back up irons at all.
    Having personally broken a number of Type 1 and Type 2 RMRs, I'm not there. $50 for BUIS is cheap insurance and I barely notice them anymore.
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    Here’s a G5.19MOS w/507c, CHPWS v3 plate and Ameriglo GL-429s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSGlock34 View Post
    Having personally broken a number of Type 1 and Type 2 RMRs, I'm not there. $50 for BUIS is cheap insurance and I barely notice them anymore.
    I know.

    My chances of being killed on my private range by a paper PF Q target are pretty slim though.

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