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    Quote Originally Posted by fly out View Post
    So, I'm minding my own business, waiting for my breakfast order, and a guy shows me a minute or two of video on his cellphone. It's video of Floyd's body being removed from the scene.
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    There were times we would scoop and go right away, no treatment on scene, if it looked like the scene could become unsafe. A large pissed off crowd is not where I'm going to plant myself for 20 minutes of resuscitation.

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    The fact that they check his pulse and just tossed his lifeless body on a cot just compounds it. I cannot understand why that happened. They don’t appear to be EMT or paramedics and it’s like they were just taking him to the morgue. Our protocols would dictate compressions unless there are obvious signs of death (lividity, decapitation, rigor Mortis) and those are listed. Floyd displayed none of those because he had died just minutes earlier.

    I want to know where they took him after they loaded him on the cot? Did they even go to the hospital? It just makes me so sick thinking about all the compounding things and a total disregard for human life.
    By Liz Sawyer Star Tribune May 28, 2020 — 11:37am


    “By the time George Floyd was en route to the hospital Monday evening, he was unresponsive and without a pulse. But for nearly an hour, first responders and ER staff refused to give up on the 46-year-old St. Louis Park man in their care.

    “He still had an outside chance,” said Hennepin Healthcare EMS Chief Marty Scheerer. “Even if it’s a super long shot, you’ve got to try your best.”

    But 90 minutes after his initial encounter with Minneapolis police, Floyd was pronounced dead at HCMC.

    “We feel the loss as well,” said Scheerer, who believes paramedics did everything right after getting the medical distress call that evening.

    A 10-minute video broadcast live on Facebook captured the moments that led up to Floyd’s death. Officer Derek Chauvin is seen kneeling on Floyd’s neck while he lies face down, handcuffed, and pleading that he can’t breathe. Minutes later, Floyd goes limp and appears to lose consciousness. Hennepin EMS then arrive six minutes after the distress call.


    Civilian footage shows a medical worker touching Floyd’s head as Chauvin remains on top of him. Paramedics and officers eventually flip Floyd over, load him on a gurney and into the ambulance while he was still handcuffed. Once inside, a responder freed his hands.


    The decision to “load and go,” rather than triage at the scene, was likely based on their race against the clock, Scheerer said. Unloading all the equipment can often take much longer than treating a patient from inside the ambulance.”

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    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...29644228247552

    This will only make things worse, honestly.
    He usually does.
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    Interesting contrast of perspectives.

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    There is more detail in the article that I excerpted, above, that might offer additional insight. @LittleLebowski, feel free to dump this post if you feel like it’s putting P-F in danger of copyright issues, or similar.

    [i]When pressed about a potential duty to intervene if a patient is endangered on a call, Scheerer surmised that, in this case, responders were unaware of how severe the situation had become.


    “I don’t think the paramedics knew what was going on. They just saw a split second of what was happening,” he said in reference to Chauvin’s prolonged knee restraint on Floyd’s neck. “Ultimately, if the police have somebody in custody, we have to get permission from them to work with on the patient.”

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    Two firefighters entered the rig as a medic was performing chest compressions on Floyd. They assisted getting IV and medications prepared as the paramedic continued to search for a pulse, the report said.


    “When someone is not breathing, every second counts,” said Mark Lakosky, president of Minneapolis Fire Local 82. His personnel are trained that someone can suffer brain damage in as little as four minutes without oxygen.


    Floyd’s condition never changed, even after an electric shock to the chest.
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    Better muzzle control and safe handling than we normally see, even if they look goofy doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trooper224 View Post
    He usually does.
    Bizarre mix of inappropriate political and badly misinformed rambling.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RJ View Post
    Interesting contrast of perspectives.

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    I can't verify this is "actual". I apologize for not checking first.

    Still, funny though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJ View Post
    Interesting contrast of perspectives.

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    But not surprising.
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    Footage of initial police contact with Floyd; walking across the street to the secondary PPV; ends with Floyd collapsing on the way into the PPV.

    FWIW:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/video/new-se...st-83971141769

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