That web site is all about your second sentence. I posted it as an example of a group that has been speaking out against and helping people avoid becoming victims of the abuses that arise when policing is for profit since the days of the national "double nickel." Some of the comments may be silly ("never read the comments"), but I haven't picked up on "sovereign citizen overtones" in the actual site's published material.
Driving in a manner inappropriate for conditions generally is a common cause.
But to Sanch's point: The main road that goes past my neighborhood is perfectly safe at 15 mph over the posted limit, which is why that's the speed most traffic flows on it. Every once in awhile, some alpha-hotel flies off the side of this straight, level, two lanes in each direction with a divided median road and takes out 100 feet of fencing or the corner of someone's house. That guy is the problem. An officer emptying a ticket book on people driving safely at the same speeds most everyone else does isn't going to do anything about the problem, but does support Sanch's point. If that officer channels Buford T. Justice with every contact, that also supports Sanch's point. Most don't, but some absolutely do.
In the state where I grew up, speed limits are set unreasonably low and enforced in a way that is reasonably characterized as predatory by those who have experience living and driving elsewhere. Seeing five vehicles pulled over in a mile and a half on a section of highway that can be traveled with total safety at 20 mph over the posted speed limit was common.
FWIW, I agree that what Sanch wrote about not running drivers for open warrants once pulled over and IDed is just silly.
Don't fall into the logical fallacy that because in your AO or agency, things are done well and appropriately, they are done well and appropriately everywhere. (It's an error made often on this site by people I otherwise greatly respect.) There are absolutely jurisdictions, and not just tiny little towns with no tax base (although there are enough of those for it to be a problem), where substantial portions of the government's budget come from traffic ticket revenue, and where the wheels of the system grind most heavily on those least equipped to defend themselves.
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Not another dime.
There's nothing civil about this war.
They are, and we're still seeing PEACEFUL protests. Without instigators stirring protests into mobs into riots, they remain peaceful. Some criminals still criminal, of course, but that's not the same as exploiting mob psychology and anonymity of large groups to purposefully create riots.
Sorta around sometimes for some of your shitty mod needs.
Buffalo mayor says 75-year-old man pushed to ground was 'agitator' as he says he won't be firing cops
https://www.foxnews.com/us/buffalo-m...ushed-agitator
Byron Brown, the mayor of Buffalo, N.Y., said Friday the 75-year-old man who was shoved to the ground by two cops the previous day was an “agitator” who had been asked to leave the area “numerous” times.You “victim” was agitating the crowd and moved towards the officers after being told to leave numerous times. He is not a “victim” of anything.What we were informed of is that that individual was an agitator. He was trying to spark up the crowd of people. Those people were there into the darkness. Our concern is when it gets dark, there is a potential for violence,” Brown said.
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