Yep. And if you're thinking about a M1 or FAL, they'll be disappointing, too. In fairness, they're all fun for a while, like Okie John said about full auto. It's just that the fun doesn't last long.Originally Posted by BehindBlueI's
Yep. And if you're thinking about a M1 or FAL, they'll be disappointing, too. In fairness, they're all fun for a while, like Okie John said about full auto. It's just that the fun doesn't last long.
"Gunfighting is a thinking man's game. So we might want to bring thinking back into it."-MDFA
Beware of my temper, and the dog that I've found...
I really didn’t like my Shadow 2 when I got it. Felt awkward in the hand, and gave me a blister with extended shooting. was close to selling it, when I thought I should at least shoot a match with it. Now I have two, and will likely get a third after this shot storm subsides.
Had I sold the gun, it might have made my list as well. Not implying you made the wrong decision, it is a heavy sucker for sure. Just sharing my experience. Heck, my first two G19s were disappointing to me., which is probably an unpopular opinion.
Back in ancient times, around 1972, I saw a used Dan Wesson revolver for sale at my gun store. It had the 3 interchangeable barrels - 2 1/2, 4, and 6 inches and two wooden grips, one for target and one for concealment. At an impressionable 21 years old, I thought it was the coolest thing ever.
The gun was noted for its short double action and the salesman told me Dan Wesson had left S&W so he could build a better revolver. I was sold.
What a piece of junk. The double action was short and horrible; the action would lock up at random and in retrospect it was the least fun gun I've ever shot. It finally locked up for good.
I still have it packed up and haven't look at it since. I bought a Python, which still works fine, and thought it was the greatest thing ever. Compared to the low bar the Dan Wesson set, it was.
The Dan Wesson left one "experience scar" - to this day, I would never buy a used gun, being afraid I'd be inheriting someone else's problem.
Real guns have hammers.
Add FS2000 to my list. I bought the rifle while home on leave from Iraq in 2007, after drooling over one for about a year. I buy it, take it home, clean it, slap an Aimpoint on and hit the range. The ergos felt like I was holding a giant snapper and the trigger pull was something that belonged on a cheap toy, and not a $2000+ rifle. With tears in my eyes, I sold it a few years later.
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I'm just going to assume you are talking about the fish.
Yup-I'm just going to assume you are talking about the fish.
Well... it *is* the "tactical tuna."
"The victor is not victorious if the vanquished does not consider himself so."
― Ennius
Every 1911 I have owned, that was smaller than a Government Model has disappointed, for fit/feeding/functioning reasons, except for two Les Baers, which disappointed because I could not shoot them nearly as well as an all-steel 1911, except from a rest, and did not actually feel any lighter while being carried.
The compact 1911 rogue’s gallery:
Detonics Combat Master
Detonics Mk VII
ODI Viking.
Stainless Commander
Officer ACP, Lightweight
1991-series Commander
Early-Nineties-era Lightweight Commander
Wilson Combat Sentinel
Retar’d LE. Kinesthetic dufus.
Don’t tread on volcanos!
Hmmm...
Remington 700 VLS in .260: I picked it up from a shooting buddy when I got interested in 6.5 caliber stuff. 6.5 CM hadn't yet built up a full head of steam and this seemed like "the answer". The twist rate was too slow, and couldn't stabilize the bullets I wanted to shoot. Shooting buddy let me off the hook on the trade.
Glock 43: I really, really wanted to like this gun. Unfortunately, the grip shape never really worked well with my hands. I had an interesting run-in with three sketchy dudes putting on masks in a convenience store parking lot (long before putting masks on was the polite thing to do). Knowing I only had 7 rounds in the gun didn't inspire confidence. I did manage to flip it at a profit though, so that was cool.
Kel-Tec: pretty much everything they've ever made. I always think, "Maybe this one will be different!" It isn't. They're neat concepts that suffer from poor execution. The KSG feels like racking a nerf gun, the Sub-2k slaps your cheek, my PF9 never worked right, and eventually barfed the extractor. I recently went shooting with some acquaintances that were pretty heavy into the Kel-Tec koolaid. Between the three of them, there were well over a half dozen KT carbines (including a stamped SBR). The Sub-2000s were slappy, but ran okay, the sights sucked. Both RDBs shit the bed to the point of requiring disassembly to resolve issues. The weird PLR/SU-16 stamped thing worked okay I guess, but was noticeably crappier than a decent AR.
In the late Nienties, which was supposed to be when the “good” Kimbers were made, I bought two Classic Customs, and a Stainless Gold Match. None would work with the their own magazines. All were quite accurate. I earned a doctorate in malfunction-clearing. All fed 185-grain match target wadcutters, once I discovered which magazines they liked, but I was/am not a bullseye shooter.
The Classic Customs would not reliably lock open, when empty, with my Wilson mags, or other mags on hand at the time. I installed Wilson Bulletproof Slide Stops, which enabled reliable locking open when empty, but feeding issues persisted. On the advice of firearms training unit instructors, I ordered Metalform 7-round mags, with metal followers. One Kimber Classic Custom eventually became reliable enough, to trust, on the street. The other seemed to insist upon a failure-to-feed about once in every 500 rounds of duty ammo, relegating it to training status.
The Stainless Gold Match was one of the most-accurate weapons I have ever owned. It quickly showed its first problem, however, when it starting failing to extract, as soon as it got warm, from firing. I pulled the extractor, and found it had a backward bend. Ah, the ol’ improper heat-treat issue; no mystery there. Onto the magazines; of course, its OEM mag was failure-prone. It hated the Metalform mags, that were the only thing my other Kimbers liked. I found that the Stainless Gold Match insisted upon Power Mags, which it fed reliably, but it also tried to feed the followers of these Power Mags, when locking-open when empty, so they would not always drop free. This might be OK at a bullseye match, but is no bueno for a street gun. This one did not stay with me very long.
During a patrol rifle certification course, in 2002, while doing transition drills, I discovered that the then-mandated Safariland 070 duty holster was preventing me from getting enough of my skinny, boney hand onto the grip safety. I found this to be disturbingly repeatable*. This ended my days of toting a Kimber duty pistol. I sold both Classic Customs. Sadly, I threw the baby out with the bath water, selling my perfectly good Colt Classic Government, as I tried to embrace .40 Glock-dom. .40 S&W was the mandated duty cartridge, by then, if/when I let my “grandfathered” duty pistols lapse. The G22 seemed to be the least of the evils, for which I could settle. (I switched to a SIG P229R, A couple of years later, when I discovered the OEM short-reach trigger, which enabled me to get enough finger properly-placed in the trigger face.)
I never liked Gen 3 G22 Glocks, but I knew that, going in, so do not list them as being disappointing. Gen4 and Gen5 Glocks are MUCH better, for me.
*My right hand was not aging well, and was losing mass.
Retar’d LE. Kinesthetic dufus.
Don’t tread on volcanos!
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