Not to mention that damned gas port.Originally Posted by ldunnmobile
Not to mention that damned gas port.
If we have to march off into the next world, let us walk there on the bodies of our enemies.
For me, it would be:
1. S&W 3rd Gen TDAs - really wanted to love them, and they look cool, but I couldn't shoot them worth a shit.
2. An uncountable number of Colt 1911s. I probably had 12-15 over the course of 10 years, and every single one of them was a POS - including guns that were, at the time "state of the art combat pistols." Wouldn't feed 230 gr FMJ factory ammo, that's pretty much not "state of the art."
3. Every Kimber I've seen or held since Ron Cohen got involved with the company.
4. Every Sig I've seen, been issued, or held since Ron Cohen got involved with the company.
5. S&W Mountain Gun in 45 Colt. I sold off a 4" nickled Model 25 in 45C to fund this, potentially the biggest mistake of my life. All to try and shave a few ounces in "carry weight." Sigh.
6. As someone else pointed out, whatever changes Glock made in production circa 2010 with the Gen4 roll out led me to drop carrying Glocks altogether for several years. I'd have to look back at my records, but IIRC, Glock factory replaced five G19s, Gen4 and 3rd Gen both, before I had them send me a G21 which I promptly traded out of...
7. The HKP30. This is what I got into once I dumped the G19. I probably lost 5 IQ points trying to figure out which grip panel/back strap combination "worked" for me. Spoiler alert - none of them did. It was accurate, but felt like a pogo stick when I shot it. Not sure why, but the P2000 felt WAY worse in my hand, but shot much better...
8. The HKVP9. Don't ask why I bought this when I had issues with the P30, but I did anyway, thinking maybe it was the trigger on the P30 I didn't like. Spoiler alert - it wasn't.
9. The UMP in all variants - when we T&E'd this as a possible replacement for the MP5, I couldn't possibly have been less impressed.
10. The Kriss family of SMGs. T&E'd in the 2009 timeframe, and they were horrid. Even getting to shoot free .45 ACP at high speed with a happy switch didn't make these worth it.
Every .357 magnum I have shot, even dads 4 inch Python. I can shoot .38s all day but I'm done in less than a full cylinder with magnums. It is too loud and obnoxious for me.
The Sig P320. I thought I had finally found a plastic fantastic with the ability to change out grips for different sizes. In short, it left me feel meh about the whole thing. I sold it off and bought the 5 inch GP 100 .44 Special and started a whole new love affair.
Some of these are pretty frickin' hilarious.
Probably not to the owners, but still...
"The victor is not victorious if the vanquished does not consider himself so."
― Ennius
The gen 5 Glock 17, 19, and 34. hated the sights, so I sold them....
For me (everyone grab your pitchforks and torches) Revolvers and Glocks.
I love the looks and the feel of revolvers, especially old (early 20th century) revolvers. Raised on The Untouchables (movie and tv show on VHS) and other gangster material. Always wanted a Detective Special and a pencil barrel S&W. I'm a former Army guy so my pistol experience was the M9 and M11. Oh, and my wife isn't fond of revolvers. After we left the Service one of the first purchases I made was that pencil barrel S&W and a model 36 both with wood stocks. First trip to the range, the 36 slices the knuckle of my thumb open and the pain from the 10-1 was rather severe. I have some ligament/tendon issues in my thumbs for my service. Turns out that after spending lots of money on grips and then working with a hand specialist who shoots too, we discovered that the recoil forces of a revolver translate into my hand in the most painful way possible. His recommendation: stick to semi-autos. I can shoot .45cal (200gr at 850fps) through a 1911 Government without an issue but not .38spl. I have collected several .32S&WL revolvers that I can tolerate to the point of almost enjoying shooting but nothing for SD. I've had to admit that revolvers are a collect for the sake of collection not high round counts.
As for the Glocks, I bought a G35 to shoot IPSC with in 2005 or so with the intention of making a Glock 19 my edc once I left Hawaii. Turns out it didn't really do anything for me. The trigger was meh and I felt like I was constantly fighting the pistol back down on target. I shoot one match with it. Then reshoot two stages with my wife's Beretta 92 and decided those just work better for me. I've tried other striker-fired and decided that the triggers don't excite me and I'd rather have the TDA.
Tavor. I was kinda excited, had never even held a bullpup.
It was brand new, my friend was real proud of it, I think it cost like $2K. I am a large human and that gun feels so cramped. Huge bore to sight offset, no room for my left arm, shitty trigger, and $2K. I shot 10 rounds, not even the whole mag, and gave it back. The AR is just so much better.
Revolvers. I’ve shot a dozen or so different revolvers over the years, including some with fancy grips. I think they’re beautiful and can appreciate their history. I want to like them, but I can’t find anything that isn’t completely awkward.
Suppressors. I understand their utility and could see myself owning one on an HD carbine, but I don’t get the fascination with them.
David S.
Wanted a little pocket 22 LR semi - got a PT-22 that was chromed and a very pretty wood set of grips. Totally jammer plus it would eject entire whole rounds or close the slide on an ejecting live round, bending it in half (that freaked me out).
Glock 42, one of the first. It jammed solid on the first round fired and I couldn't unjam it. A friend had a magic trick to do it. Later, it managed to fire out of battery with smoke and flame coming out of the ejection port - scaring me! Went back to the factory and now runs. It won't drop an empty mag, you have to pull it. It's ultimate fate is still unknown to me.
My 19s, and 17 ran fine.
SW 1911Sc Commander. Started out as a jammer and de-staked itself twice. That tanked two matches. I finished one, when a friend lent me his 'truck' Taurus 1911 (go figure). Went back to SW and it settled down. Seems to run fine now.
1) The PPK. Like shooting a handful of razor blades.
2) A GSG MP-40 9mm. Looked super cool, and I swear I heard the music from "Where Eagles Dare" playing when I bought it. But, meh construction, and just a bullet hose without a stock.
3) One of those .22lr Umermex Uzis. Same as above. Cheap zinc bolt, unreliable, and the sights were seriously off. I had the rear moved as far as it would go, and it still grouped far off target.
4) Uberti .357 SAA. Fun, but the sights were terrible.
5) Norinco NMH 91. My first 'AK', and it mangled ammo more than it fired rounds.
6) Colt 1991 .45 (belonged to my BnL). Underwhelming, and gave me hammer bite.
"You win 100% of the fights you avoid. If you're not there when it happens, you don't lose." - William Aprill
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