It's not like the guy was running around shooting up the neighborhood.Originally Posted by Sidheshooter
Nor was he running off with someone's screaming kid in arms.
Nor was he chasing a woman through an alley with a butcher's knife and a hard-on.
Until more info comes out, rolling up with guns draws is looking both stupid and unnecessary given the circumstances.
"You win 100% of the fights you avoid. If you're not there when it happens, you don't lose." - William Aprill
"I've owned a guitar for 31 years and that sure hasn't made me a musician, let alone an expert. It's made me a guy who owns a guitar."- BBI
I hope the investigation is thorough and justice is swift and fair. Whatever the outcome may be. I am not qualified to judge based upon the short video, however as an armed citizen you need to pick and choose your battles and I feel this wasn't one to pick. Simply following from a distance in the vehicle while on the phone with 911 would have probably sufficed for an unarmed man. As other have stated, easily avoided.
What does any of this have to do with the price of tea in China? Are you seriously suggesting people do not have the right to make a citizen's arrest of someone who commited a felony in front of them? Or is your problem with my use of the word "necessary" rather than "reasonable?" That diction was a nod to my home state which limits police use of deadly force to the stricter "necessary" standard (a standard that isn't explicitly extended to citizen arrests, but I'm not taking chances...).
Holy Flying Spaghetti monster man, BBI & I were just talking about the incorrect use of the word "rob." It had nothing to do with the original case...EDITED TO ADD:
Oddlot posted: "The American Heritage Dictionary defines burglary as: "to enter and rob a dwelling..."
The American Heritage Dictionary is not a legal dictionary and nor remotely authoritative re the definition of burglary...particularly in the State of GA which defines burglary as
"A person commits the offense of burglary in the first degree when, without authority and with the intent to commit a felony or theft therein, he or she enters or remains within an occupied, unoccupied, or vacant dwelling house of another or any building, vehicle, railroad car, watercraft, aircraft, or other such structure designed for use as the dwelling of another."
Clearly, the definition of burglary in GA reaches more felonies than to "rob a dwelling" and more places than merely a dwelling. (Section 16-7-1)
In short, the law is far more nuanced than your incredible broad pronouncements to date.
Yup. You know how that saying goes. When all you have is a hammer, everything becomes a nail.
I see what you did there.
It’s not just the fact that it could have been avoided, but the fact that this situation was in fact manufactured. Ignorance, bigotry and hubris were the raw materials and death is the product.
I hope the truth comes out, there is a fair trial and that justice is served.
Every dirty job that comes along...
Hain’t we got all the fools in town on our side? And ain’t that a big enough majority in any town?
His point clearly was to call out overly broad, errantly absolute assertions regarding the uniformity of use-of-force provisions in citizen arrest laws in every state in the union.
A strangely resentful statement -- not to mention untrue. Anyone who follows the discussions on this forum regarding LEO UOF knows shoots that look bad are called out as such by a large swath of the membership with the experience to know what they're seeing -- a critical element not shared by all here.
You seem to favor less considered, more disruptive posting.
Hain’t we got all the fools in town on our side? And ain’t that a big enough majority in any town?
Read about this earlier. What a shit show.
Video statement by the GBI director. It's a FB video.
I had an ER nurse in a class. I noticed she kept taking all head shots. Her response when asked why, "'I've seen too many people who have been shot in the chest putting up a fight in the ER." Point taken.
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