Opinion on Seekins rifle

[Bowman_15]

I'm in the market for a new AR as a graduation gift to myself. Funds are limited though and want to stay around $1,000 to let me outfit it with an optic as well.

Role of the gun is to begin learning basic carbine skills, use during a couple classes over the next year or so, and begin some competitive shooting for fun.

I found this seekins rifle but haven't seen much on this forum about the company. Things I do like about this rifle specifically is the ambidextrous controls.

Is this a decent rifle or should I look elsewhere?

https://www.seekinsprecision.com/pro...ts/sp15-1.html

Thanks for the expertise on this forum. I've learn something new almost everyday.

[vcdgrips]

Edge of my lane. Given your 1k price point, the Seekins rifle is 925 retail and back ordered. What is the in hand price and timeline?

S&W MP15X comes in at 800ish and is in stock. You could stretch a bit and get an Aimpoint Pro at 400ish and have a very serviceable set-up.

https://www.cdnnsports.com/smith-wes...U#.XpTeQP03mpo


An S&W MP15 Sporter II at 700ish with a red dot from Crimson Trace included. Model is "optic ready" so no rear or front sight.
https://www.cdnnsports.com/smith-wes...U#.XpTfG_03mpo


Finally another S&W Sporter II at 649 plus shipping to your FFL. This has a std front sight and a rear folding magpul.
http://summitgunbroker.com/m-p-15-sport-ii.html

[Bowman_15]

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll take a close look at those for sure. Just to clarify, I have about a grand for the gun and then about 400 for an optic.

While having the gun sooner rather than later would be nice, I'm willing to wait a bit if a better rifle is possible.

[Btp2332]

Take a look at Rock River Arms also.

[HCM]

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll take a close look at those for sure. Just to clarify, I have about a grand for the gun and then about 400 for an optic.

While having the gun sooner rather than later would be nice, I'm willing to wait a bit if a better rifle is possible.

Not particularly impressed with Seekins. For $1k I would look at Centurion, Geissele, BCM, SOGLW and Sionics. S&W is not bad but if you are looking at traditional M4s without free float rails, recoil gunworks has LMT Rifles at about $800. Free float is a nice to have but not mandatory for a general purpose carbine to learn the basics on.

I would also look and buying a complete upper and a complete lower separately as this will often come out cheaper. This is an option with BCM, SOLGW and Centurion. The nice thing bout ARs is you can mix various manufacturers uppers and lowers. If funds are an issue I would rather get a basic lower and put $$ into a better upper and better optics.

[HCM]

Take a look at Rock River Arms also.

Based on ?

My experience with RRA has been that RRA Guns are not all created equal. Their GOV contact rifles and their commercial rifles demonstrate two very different levels of quality, similar to commercial bushmasters vs the TX State contract bushmasters.

I’ve seen several failures with RRA commercial guns including broken bolt lugs and failures of their match triggers.

[NGCSUGrad09]

Seekins makes good stuff. I wouldn't be afraid to have one. They've got some good guys putting them together and you'd be surprised who is running some of their large frame gassers in bad places.

[frozentundra]

That Seekins is kind of heavy at a listed 7 lbs.

I'm certainly not an expert, but I've found that low weight is what I really like from an AR. They get heavier quick once you start adding optics, light, sling and loaded mags. Colt 6720 was a good lighter-weight option, but I'm not sure they are readily available anymore. BCM has some good lightweight options, and their prices haven't been affected by Kungflu. They are a quality manufacturer at pretty reasonable prices. You could pair a BCM upper with a lower made by BCM or any number of other sources.

https://bravocompanyusa.com/bcm-stan...-group-625fsb/

https://bravocompanyusa.com/bcm-stan...-13-handguard/

An AR outfitted with either of these uppers should, I believe, come in somewhere around 6.2 or 5.8 lbs respectively.

Things I do like about this rifle specifically is the ambidextrous controls.

Are you a lefty? Larry Vickers shoots lefty and prefers to use a standard gun as follows. Just food for thought.

[1911Nut]

I would absolutely recommend the Colt AR 6920.

There have recently been some truly smoking prices on these guns, and IMHO you can't go wrong with one of them.

[vcdgrips]

While the 6920 was the school solution when it can be had at 999 to the door. That does not seem to be the case at present.

Indeed, furnitureless ones could be had at 799 to the door all day long right after Xmas.