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Thread: Swartz passive firing pin safety issues: be informed

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    Ruger's 1911 line uses a titanium lightweight firing pin to pass drop tests. I believe Springfield does the same thing.

    It is possible for titanium to gall but this is probably a non-issue as long as the hole and pin are in proper working relationship with each other.

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    I might be wrong, but I understand the series II firing pin was designed not to interfere with the trigger pull, as it is actuated by the grip safety. I own one and it hasn't given me problems.

    But that said, I still don't trust one for a life and death situation. I'll take a slightly worse trigger pull over the chance that the gun will "click" when it should "pew"

    Series 70 is where it's at with series 80 a close second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45dotACP View Post
    I might be wrong, but I understand the series II firing pin was designed not to interfere with the trigger pull, as it is actuated by the grip safety. I own one and it hasn't given me problems.

    But that said, I still don't trust one for a life and death situation. I'll take a slightly worse trigger pull over the chance that the gun will "click" when it should "pew"

    Series 70 is where it's at with series 80 a close second.

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    I think the Series 80 causing trigger pull problems is overblown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokarev View Post
    I think the Series 80 causing trigger pull problems is overblown.

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    I agree.

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    Have any of these experts ever shot a real Colt-Swartz?

    My FLG had one come in for a barrel, but I didn't get in on the firing trials.

    By the way "Series 70" doesn't really mean, "lacking a firing pin obstruction."
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    Here is an article on Drop Test Results on 1911s. It was posted here last year in a thread about drop safe issues and the 1911.


    http://dave2.freeshell.org/1911/drop1/drop1.htm

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    Happy 109th birthday to the 1911!

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    Ah yes the Swartz Safety. Screwing up 1911s for damned near a century.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Watson View Post

    By the way "Series 70" doesn't really mean, "lacking a firing pin obstruction."
    Is that kinda how a "Pre-64" Winchester model 70 doesn't mean "controlled round feed Winchester model 70" today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Watson View Post
    By the way "Series 70" doesn't really mean, "lacking a firing pin obstruction."
    I'm sure a bunch of us know what an actual Series 70 gun is, but even Colt refers to their pistols lacking a firing pin safety as Series 70 guns nowadays. Granted, modern Colts don't have a Collet bushing -- but the Series 70 / Series 80 terminology is a convenient way to distinguish between guns with no firing pin safety and those with one -- at least when it comes to Colts.

    It's no big deal.

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