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    Quote Originally Posted by breakingtime91 View Post
    1 shooting a month and usually about the same home invasion
    Damn dude...

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    Honestly if you can I think it’s time to move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GJM View Post
    I have most of the symptoms, including loss of smell. Such a loss of smell, that when I uncap “new skin,” which drives our dog running into the next room, I couldn’t smell anything. The irony is I was most likely exposed at the LGS.
    Sorry to hear you're having the KungFlu blues. Will keep you in my thoughts and hope it passes you by without serious concerns.

    As for the armor thing. Ive thought about it for a while, especially as I contemplate taking a carbine course here and there. There are some pretty affordable jobbers out there now aside from steel. Just never made it to the top of the burn money list.

    Guess with various states deciding that criminals need to be set free there may come an increase in crime rates to boost folks' concerns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erick Gelhaus View Post

    - with plates, you can get any two of - performance, light-weight, reasonable cost. Only two.
    What plates currently satisfy the first two criteria? This is just for curiosity sake, I have level III MSA plates together with Velocity soft armor, which I will continue to use as a safe direction backstop primarily.
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    Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places, but as a civilian purchaser, I'm having more luck finding reputable sources for plates and plate carriers than for concealable soft armor. I was about to get back into IDPA before the public health situation went sideways and I was thinking that something in Level II might be worthwhile PPE for other people's screw-ups there and at classes. Given my usual lifestyle choices, I feel like I'm more likely to get a lead injection on the range than in a gunfight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YVK View Post
    What plates currently satisfy the first two criteria? This is just for curiosity sake, I have level III MSA plates together with Velocity soft armor, which I will continue to use as a safe direction backstop primarily.
    Just two examples of those you're asking about:
    Velocity System's API-BZ plate - 0.52 Inches thick
    • 7.62 x 39 Armor Piercing Incendiary (API - BZ), Multi-hit
    • 7.62 x 39 Ball, Mild Steel Core, PS Ball
    • 7.62 x 51 NATO M80 Ball, Multi-hit
    • 5.56 x 45 M855, Multi-hit
    • 5.56 x 45 M855 A1, Multi-hit
    • 5.56 x 45 M193, Multi-hit
    • 5.45 x 39 AK-74, Multi-hit
    $950 each

    Hesco U210 plate - 3.9 lbs .569" thick
    SPECIAL THREAT RIFLE 5.56x45/7.62x39
    $699-$1055

    Mine ...
    5.5lb, .60 thick,
    Rated for 5.56x45 M855 & 7.62x39 MSC/AP
    $193 each

    Finding legitimate retailers with good soft armor might well take some searching.

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    I hope the best for you @GJM. Hang in there man.
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    I hope you feel better soon, George, and make a complete recovery. Best wishes to the Missus as well, I hope she's not ill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erick Gelhaus View Post
    Just two examples of those you're asking about:
    Velocity System's API-BZ plate - 0.52 Inches thick
    • 7.62 x 39 Armor Piercing Incendiary (API - BZ), Multi-hit
    • 7.62 x 39 Ball, Mild Steel Core, PS Ball
    • 7.62 x 51 NATO M80 Ball, Multi-hit
    • 5.56 x 45 M855, Multi-hit
    • 5.56 x 45 M855 A1, Multi-hit
    • 5.56 x 45 M193, Multi-hit
    • 5.45 x 39 AK-74, Multi-hit
    $950 each

    Hesco U210 plate - 3.9 lbs .569" thick
    SPECIAL THREAT RIFLE 5.56x45/7.62x39
    $699-$1055

    Mine ...
    5.5lb, .60 thick,
    Rated for 5.56x45 M855 & 7.62x39 MSC/AP
    $193 each


    Finding legitimate retailers with good soft armor might well take some searching.
    Hi Erick,

    Do you have a link to that one? I am trying to find it without success. I have an old Eagle Maritime CIRAS carrier that takes SAPI plates, and was going buy a set. Those would fit the budget and needs analysis.

    Thanks very much and stay safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriousStudent View Post
    Hi Erick,

    Do you have a link to that one? I am trying to find it without success. I have an old Eagle Maritime CIRAS carrier that takes SAPI plates, and was going buy a set. Those would fit the budget and needs analysis.

    Thanks very much and stay safe.
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