Whatever you pick make sure it runs 45 super cause GJM and bears...
Whatever you pick make sure it runs 45 super cause GJM and bears...
Originally Posted by Tom_Jones
I once shot a Vector. I have a friend who runs gun range in Florida and he had one for rent and let me shoot it.
It was very unreliable and jammed every few rounds.
What was really funny was I had in my gun bag a gun with a very similar shape. I had the ZK-22 bullpup stock
for a 10/22 with me and we decided to compare guns. We both agreed that my 22lr was
more fun and more reliable than the Vector in 9mm.
https://www.aklysdefense.com/index.p...-bullpup-stock
ZK-22 Bullpup Stock: $284.99
So if you really want a fun range toy I suggest the Aklys stock (and a dremmel to get it working,
there was lots of plastic to be removed, during assembly, for smooth operation) and leave the
Vector to those who do not know any better.
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Rob,
Let me throw an outlier into the ring for your consideration:
https://www.tnwfirearms.com/product-...-xxxx-brhg.htm
A friend of mine has one of the carbine versions in .40 that was reliable when I went shooting with him....sample of one and all that. But they use Glock magazines, AR pistol grips and stocks (along with braces for the pistol versions, I'm assuming), and the entry cost is pretty reasonable.
"It's surprising how often you start wondering just how featureless a desert some people's inner landscapes must be."
-Maple Syrup Actual
I just like having you around Tom, so whatever is clever.
Remind me to always read the fine print on your contracts.
It does look pretty awesome. But is it really distinct from a UMP, besides using AR bits and pieces?
See, this is interesting. I've read a mixture of reports and I am kind of getting the impression the Vector isn't super reliable. I'm also getting the impression that people aren't shooting them a lot, so it's tough to say.
Isn't Tommy Built the guy who builds like the best HK-clones on the planet? I thought I read that somewhere.
Interesting piece Chuck, do you happen to know if it's basically just a mini-AR or do they use a different type of recoil spring system to allow the stock to be folded without a LAW-type adapter?
I'm pretty sure it's a direct blowback...the tech specs go a little deeper under the ASR tab. I've not looked at it's innards, so I couldn't say. I don't see any pics on the website without some type of receiver extension. But they advertise caliber conversions that are supposed to be fairly simple and the barrels take down, IIRC.
"It's surprising how often you start wondering just how featureless a desert some people's inner landscapes must be."
-Maple Syrup Actual
I dunno about the best, but he's definitely one of them. He does a lot of custom stuff in general even outside of guns, his website is worth checking out just to see the cool shit he's made. I believe most of the XM8 clones in the USA were built by him using SL8 donor guns, along with a lot of the top shelf G36 clones.
The Omegas have a more checkered history; they have ties to the old SWS outfit that was so hated upon (I believe the owner of Omega is the brother of Todd Bailey?), but AFAIK, their quality half as bad as SWS.
Yea that’s the guy! He’s a total nerd and I kind of dig it.
For some reason, probably reading a thread here, he popped up on my radar months ago. I did some digging at HK Forum and could not really find any complaints in quality or CS. I think that says something, since I’ve always felt HK fanbois look for an excuse to hate on anything HK “clone” when possible.
Thanks for the heads up on this one. My buddy had an early USC -> UMP conversion that I got some trigger time behind. It worked well, shot soft, and was stupid reliable with both German or US mags. I didn’t realize anyone was doing a quality clone for the UMP.
So what are you buying?
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Are you looking at the collapsing braces? They are stupid expensive. The SB side folders run from 108 to 75.
https://dsgarms.com/rifle-accessories-sbt-sbti-01-sb
https://dsgarms.com/rifle-accessories-sbt-sbt-02-sb
I am very impressed with the APC9 PRO and would expect the same level of craftsmanship with their other calibers. I hope the LWRCi SMG45 works well but am not willing to be an early adopter after it took them 5 or 6 years to get it to market.
No experience with the Kriss. Sorry.
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