Nevada Highway Patrol Transitions to SIG P320

[AMC]

I've never seen a department clean by ultrasound. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but in nearly thirty years I never saw it.

When we T&E'd the P230 I was a big fan. I loved the way the large grip module fit my hand and it shot very well. This was before the whole drop-safe fiasco. However, I think all of the P230's supposed advantages really don't amount to much in reality, in either military or LE application. Most of them simply won't be utilized. In the end, the P230 can't do anything on an institutional level the Glock isn't already doing.

We do ultrasonic cleanings. The machine is loaded with MPro7. Surprised about the "no ultrasonic" thing from Sig, though, @HCM. I'll ask our guy about that tomorrow.

[Trooper224]

I’m not trying to be a smart ass - but since you were in LE back when the P230 was popular, are you referencing the .380? Or was that a typo and you meant the P320?

I think it's my early onset dementia kicking in. Yes, P320.

[El Cid]

I think it's my early onset dementia kicking in. Yes, P320.

Lol! I blame how Sig names/numbers their guns.

[Trooper224]

Lol! I blame how Sig names/numbers their guns.

Well, I was forever scarred at a young age by Smith & Wesson's 3rd Generation numbering scheme. Maybe Sig is giving me PTSD flashbacks.

[TGS]

We do ultrasonic cleanings. The machine is loaded with MPro7. Surprised about the "no ultrasonic" thing from Sig, though, @HCM. I'll ask our guy about that tomorrow.

When/for who/how often/for what reasons do you guys perform ultrasonic cleanings? Thanks in advance.

[HCM]

How many departments are actually conducting any sort of regular ultrasonic cleaning on a systematic level that makes it a legitimate reason to buy the gun?

How many departments are so backlogged on pistol repairs that they are unable to maintain force readiness?

Again, goes back to my point that the platform might have all sorts of neat features compared to other striker fired polymer pistols......but pretty much none of them are actually meaningful. They're just "neat", are likely completely under-or-unutilized, and the real reason for agencies buying them (I hypothesize) is because they already have SIGs, want to stay with the company/support network they already know, and so they buy the polymer pistol that SIG has to sell.

I guess about the only exception to that would be if an agency had a "no trigger pull for disassembly" rule. How many of the agencies adopting them have that rule?

How many agencies will adopt a modular handgun and then prohibit officers from utilizing that modularity ? (Hint- the answer is more than you think)

[LockedBreech]

Doing a quick mental check, seemed like Sig now has 4 or so State Patrol agencies...then I realized it's quite a lot more.

Nevada
Ohio
Oklahoma
North Dakota
Virginia
Texas
Kansas

So, 7 that I can think of. For 50 state patrol agencies that is surprisingly rapid adoption. Is it because like an earlier poster said a lot of them were Classic P-Series Sig agencies?

[Trooper224]

Doing a quick mental check, seemed like Sig now has 4 or so State Patrol agencies...then I realized it's quite a lot more.

Nevada
Ohio
Oklahoma
North Dakota
Virginia
Texas
Kansas

So, 7 that I can think of. For 50 state patrol agencies that is surprisingly rapid adoption. Is it because like an earlier poster said a lot of them were Classic P-Series Sig agencies?

Kansas is Glock.

[LockedBreech]

Kansas is Glock.

Oh, thanks for nothing Google. I based it on seeing a KHP P320 Armorer Course listed.

[TGS]

Doing a quick mental check, seemed like Sig now has 4 or so State Patrol agencies...then I realized it's quite a lot more.

Nevada- Yes
Ohio- Yes
Oklahoma- Edit: I'm seeing YES, they were issued SIGs, Troopers could buy Glocks though
North Dakota- Yes
Virginia- Yes
Texas- Yes
Kansas- N/A as noted by Trooper224

So, 7 that I can think of. For 50 state patrol agencies that is surprisingly rapid adoption. Is it because like an earlier poster said a lot of them were Classic P-Series Sig agencies?

My notes in red. 6 out of 6 issued SIGs prior to switching to the P320.