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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan_S View Post
    They’re utilizing some questionable marketing claims, at least.

    You don’t get lighter *and* stronger at high temperature *and* resistant to abrasion, etc.
    I'm not a metallurgist so I'll leave the C300 vs. Stellite vs. 17-4 stainless conversation to those that know more than I do.

    Good, unbiased article on the Vox.

  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by jc000 View Post
    If you’re using a different material, why not? Serious question.
    Ti has a higher yield strength than stainless, yet, isn’t as abrasion resistant. See where I’m going with this?

  3. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan_S View Post
    They’re utilizing some questionable marketing claims, at least.

    You don’t get lighter *and* stronger at high temperature *and* resistant to abrasion, etc.

    What’s questionable here?

    https://energeticarms.com/vox-centerfire-silencer/

    Other manufacturers are stuck with 17-4 H1150 Stainless which has a yield of 100ksi or 6Al-4V titanium which has a yield of 120ksi. The C300 maraging steel used in the VOX™ is heat treated to achieve a yield of over 270ksi. What’s more: It has more strength at 1,000°F than either stainless (17-4 H1150) or titanium have at room temp! The unique material science of the VOX means you don’t have to compromise- you get the rugged full-auto rated capability of a heavy silencer with the light weight of a less rugged titanium can. No other silencer offers this spectrum of capabilities and features.
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  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan_S View Post
    Ti has a higher yield strength than stainless, yet, isn’t as abrasion resistant. See where I’m going with this?
    Not really...

  6. #16
    My only experience with suppressors is my Sandman S. I like it but it is heavy (especially if you add a suppressor cover with a high heat rating). The mount is great. I think the weight and durability was probably overkill for my needs but I was looking for a one and done option.

  7. #17
    From the designer of the Vox:
    We will go on the assumption that other cans are 17-4 in the H900 condition (still not sure about this). If so, using MMPDS the C300 has a 59% higher yield at room temp and at 1,000F. I believe those are real numbers using real validated data. If this was H1150 then it is 170% stronger at RT and 114% at 1,000F.
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  8. #18
    I like how they tested it with det cord:

    We have validated our weld process in several ways. We developed a HASS (highly accelerated stress screening) process to simulate thousands of heat/cool cycles then shot the HASS cycled samples. The silencers were then inspected with dye penetrate to look for any cracking and then sectioned and inspected through the cross section of the welds. C300 is fairly simple to weld and very tolerant however all parts are solvent cleaned prior to welding and all welds are argon backed to protect the root. We also took the rather unusual step of using high explosives (det cord) through the bore to shock stress the welds to failure to make sure we tore base metal. I realize this explosive testing is very unconventional but that is how innovation happens! Not going to lie, it is also fun to use high explosives to test anything
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