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    Quote Originally Posted by Trooper224 View Post
    After an on again, off again two year Ebay search I finally landed a sweet, sweet Galco Miami Classic for my 4506. It took a while due to the early hooked trigger guard. It's far from new, but a little application of Picard's fixed it right up. Is this my new EDC? Hardly. Will I use it on occasion? I bet I will. Mostly, I bought it because it makes me smile.

    Had the same set up back in the day. Did I mention 30 years ago.... You're gonna cost me money... Thanks Brother
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillSWPA View Post
    I prefer shoulder holsters with a figure 8 harness because it keeps the pressure off the back of my neck.

    The harness should be adjusted so that the gun and magazine pouch come as high up under your arms as possible, but not so high that the grip of the gun is being pulled outward away from your body. With the straps so adjusted, the gun will stay in place even when you bend forward, eliminating the need for tie-down straps. I discourage tie-down straps, because as you move, they will pull the gun in ways that will not help concealment.

    Horizontal shoulder holsters are one of the few holster types for which I prefer a thumb break. Gravity works against keeping the gun in the holster. A combination of a thumb break and tension screw is helpful, but the tension screw cannot be too tight. In the case of a 1911, the retention strap should pass between the hammer and firing pin. Some holsters are designed to pass the strap around the spur of the lowered hammer, and are to be avoided. For a Glock, I do not find a significant advantage or disadvantage to the strap passing over the back of the slide or the backstrap of the grip. Either way, I find that I have to release the thumb break with less than a perfect grip.

    The attachment of the harness to the holster should cause the holster to cant slightly grip down, and should also cause the gun to cant with the grip angled towards your body. The Miami Classic revolver holsters do this better than the semiauto holsters, although their semiauto holsters have proved acceptable to me, and the Kramer holster is particularly good for this.

    Although the vast majority of shoulder holsters with figure 8 harnesses are horizontal or diagonal, Galco and FIST both make vertical holsters with such a harness.

    Before I knew better, I tried some cheap nylon shoulder holsters. Concealment was generally not as good as better quality leather holsters, and access speed was often compromised by poor thumb break design and/or the potential for snagging. A thin nylon strap can easily get caught between the hammer body and hammer spur of a revolver.

    Ken Null makes a few very interesting upside down holsters, my favorite of which is the SKR. This holster is extremely fast when drawing with either the strong hand or weak hand, although a weak hand draw will cover your own torso. A discreet draw is not possible, since the pull-through snap will be loud. I did not find the harness to be comfortable.

    When drawing from a shoulder holster, be aware of the potential for covering your own arm as well as everyone within a 180 degree arc. This is the least of your concerns if you need your gun to stop something really bad from happening, and certainly would not concern anyone who carries AIWB, but ti does create a risk. You will not be able to practice drawing with live ammo on any public range, even those that permit drawing from strong side hip holsters.
    +1! A solid post with good info. I only take issue with the bolded sentence, as a strap that goes around the tang can be trapped between the hand and the gun, stalling the draw.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mntneer357 View Post
    Can y'all give some guidance on shoulder holsters? I get they're not "perfect" but I can definitely see their utility/usefulness. Sadly, I admit I know jack shit about them.

    Any advantage to the Miami Classic over the Miami Classic II? Any knowledge y'all can impart is appreciated, as these things ain't exactly cheap.

    Now, moar shoulder holster action plz... :-)
    I'm partial to the designs of Sam Andrews. http://www.andrewsleather.com/traditional.htm

    I once had a Solo shoulder rig for a Kahr that I wore as a BUG under a sport coat / blazer while working at the Tribe's casino. It also worked great with a waist-length leather flight jacket. I'd wear it partially zipped while sitting in the bleachers during my kids' events at school, and didn't have to worry about anything showing at my waist.

    Sam also has an online store with stuff in stock: https://samuel-andrews-crh7.squarespace.com/

    The only thing keeping me from snapping up an in-stock Monarch rig for the Kahr is, now that I have both a K9 and a CW9, I really want another Solo rig and an Urban Safari rig (less the mag pouches). I will probably succumb to temptation and grab an in-stock Monarch for my Commander.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick R View Post
    Does anyone make a similar holster out of kydex? Seems that would help with retention, especially with a muzzle up rig.
    Muzzle up is generally used for Colt DS or S&W J-frame sized revolvers, not semi-autos. I'd be much more confident in a leather thumb break than just plain kydex for retention.

    There are kydex options available, however I can't remember who makes them. Safariland even makes an ALS shoulder rig, if you like carrying a holster the size of a football under your armpit.
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    Here's a couple I found while working on a project. Havent tried them, so no comment on quality, etc.

    https://www.highnoonholsters.com/kyd...ters/equalizer

    https://www.arestactical.net/product/shoulder-holster/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Whitlock View Post
    +1! A solid post with good info. I only take issue with the bolded sentence, as a strap that goes around the tang can be trapped between the hand and the gun, stalling the draw.




    I'm partial to the designs of Sam Andrews. http://www.andrewsleather.com/traditional.htm

    I once had a Solo shoulder rig for a Kahr that I wore as a BUG under a sport coat / blazer while working at the Tribe's casino. It also worked great with a waist-length leather flight jacket. I'd wear it partially zipped while sitting in the bleachers during my kids' events at school, and didn't have to worry about anything showing at my waist.

    Sam also has an online store with stuff in stock: https://samuel-andrews-crh7.squarespace.com/

    The only thing keeping me from snapping up an in-stock Monarch rig for the Kahr is, now that I have both a K9 and a CW9, I really want another Solo rig and an Urban Safari rig (less the mag pouches). I will probably succumb to temptation and grab an in-stock Monarch for my Commander.




    The circle is complete.
    Andrew's stuff is first rate.

    I need that Urban Safari for the 4506 and 4566.
    Bring me my broadsword and clear understanding.

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    I've been rocking this one for my Beretta 92D, as I discussed in our fairly recent (well, started in 2018) shoulder holster thread. https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....ecommendations
    Excellent orthopedic holster (when suffering/recuperating from hip/nerve damage) or for vehicular carry.

    https://www.berettausa.com/en-us/ra-...n-lthr/e02226/

    Excellent holster, very well made and fitted. I like how it's not saddled with off-side magazine pouch(es), as I prefer to carry my reload magazine(s) on my belt.

    According to Beretta, they're currently out of stock on this one in brown, but it's available in black (and on sale, for any interested).

    Best, Jon
    Last edited by JonInWA; 02-14-2020 at 02:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trooper224 View Post
    Andrew's stuff is first rate.

    I need that Urban Safari for the 4506 and 4566.


    Once I get one of these:
    https://www.mossberg.com/product/590-nightstick-6-shot/

    I will need one of his firepower rigs.
    (Formerly known as Sotex.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Whitlock View Post


    Once I get one of these:
    https://www.mossberg.com/product/590-nightstick-6-shot/

    I will need one of his firepower rigs.
    The two were made for each other.

    On the other hand, if I try to carry the '06/'66 combo with that Urban Safari rig, I just might rupture a disc from the weight.
    Bring me my broadsword and clear understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trooper224 View Post
    On the other hand, if I try to carry the '06/'66 combo with that Urban Safari rig, I just might rupture a disc from the weight.

    It will be the perfect rig to use from your wheelchair.
    (Formerly known as Sotex.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Whitlock View Post


    Once I get one of these:
    https://www.mossberg.com/product/590-nightstick-6-shot/

    I will need one of his firepower rigs.
    carelessly googled

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