Which is why I can't understand why the Element went away. It was like a 'cool' minivan. My wife LOVED hers. She cried when it got totalled, and when we went looking for something similar, there just isn't. She ended up in an Outback.Originally Posted by Doc_Glock
'Nobody ever called the fire department because they did something intelligent'
Have you seen my posts and the corroborating posts by others in the Sprinter thread?
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No. I remembered the thread, but not your contribution. I was mainly being a smartass.
Chris
I had a Chevy Astro as a company car, and ultimately ended up buying it. It towed my boat, it hauled my track bike, it had a good stereo and got decent mileage and had over 500mi range.
I hated it...
The current last generation V6 Camaro was faster than the pre-Coyote V8 Mustang, IIRC. They are quite capable cars. My SS/RS is stupid fast. It's absolutely nuts how fast it can accelerate. I'm not a burn-out guy, but do love a hard charge down an entrance ramp or a 'how quick can I get back into my lane' 2-lane passing funs. My fun factor is pretty solidly in the rolling start to 80mph range. I've had it up to 120 in a controlled environment and it would have done more easily if I'd had more controlled environment.
Top speed doesn't really fun me out, though. I've done 135 in Crown Vics, so meh, not exactly a thrill and the instances of being able to use top speed without endangering lives and driving status is very minimal to me.
Did I ever tell you about the time my buddy snuck on to the Indy 500 track for a quick lap? The supposedly empty Indy 500 track? The supposedly empty Indy 500 track that had a tour bus on it? No? Ah, well, it never happened if that's what you're asking.I love my NC series Miata because I can get myself into an assload of trouble without even breaking urban speed limits. Even rowing through the box is fun...
Ken
BBI: ...”you better not forget the safe word because shit's about to get weird”...
revchuck38: ...”mo' ammo is mo' betta' unless you're swimming or on fire.”
Hmmmmmmm
I know, right?
I think the horsepower escalation reached the point of diminishing return a long time ago. After putting 105k on my turbo Focus I might even consider the 2.3EB in the Mustang. Probably plenty of power and nice delivery, and a few grand cheaper. Maybe troll for a used one when the Focus is done.
The problem is that weight and size go right along with it.
Also, driver aids. With all the electronic "helpers" active, those 400-500 hp cars are intermittently turned into 250 hp (or less) cars just when needed to protect someone from being a complete ninny and having a really bad day. Most of the time.
Also, weight. The weight and size keep going up along with the HP. Mazda and Porsche seeming to be the only notable exceptions.
People don't actually drive significantly faster now than they did in the '80s, because we've been operating at the limit of the human performance comfort zone since the 55 started to be lifted. That hasn't changed.
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I had a Chevy Astro as a company car, and ultimately ended up buying it. It towed my boat, it hauled my track bike, it had a good stereo and got decent mileage and had over 500mi range.
I hated it...
Astros are under rated. A buddy of mine had one for a company car. He also had a waterski boat (Malibu?). Four of us towed the boat from Illinois to Florida one winter over Christmas break for some skiing, and it didn't bat an eye.
Ain't that the truth. We got a Highlander for the wife. It's great. For her. Quiet, reliable, BORING, and after driving it, I realized I mainly hate it because it is just too damn heavy and therefore sluggish in its manners (the lack of fun seems to be a general Toyota characteristic as well). Give me the Odyssey any day.
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