Montana Bullet Works .45 cal 230 and 250 grain hard cast in .45ACP.

[5pins]

Test Gun: Colt 1911.
Barrel length: 5 inches.
Ammunition: Montana Bullet Works .45 ACP 230gr and 250gr Hard Cast.
Test media: 10% Clear Ballistics Gel.
Distance: 10 feet.
Chronograph: Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph G2.
Five shot velocity average: 947, 860fps
Gel Temperature 70 degrees.

https://general-cartridge.com/2020/0...5acp-handload/

[Hambo]

Outstanding work.

[Tokarev]

https://youtu.be/ufH4eZ7sF_I

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[Dave T]

In these examples adequate penetration would not seem to be an issue. (smile)

Dave

[Wayne Dobbs]

Test Gun: Colt 1911.
Barrel length: 5 inches.
Ammunition: Montana Bullet Works .45 ACP 230gr and 250gr Hard Cast.
Test media: 10% Clear Ballistics Gel.
Distance: 10 feet.
Chronograph: Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph G2.
Five shot velocity average: 947, 860fps
Gel Temperature 70 degrees.

https://general-cartridge.com/2020/0...5acp-handload/

5pins,

If you are able, I think it would be very useful to see what that 230 grain loaded to hardball velocity (800-850 fps) does in terms of gel penetration. I would guess it does great and that it gives a real boost to what we're used to with .45 ACP ball. Many years ago (1960s, I think) Jeff Cooper wrote that if the .45 ACP was loaded to "100 foot seconds faster with a proper combat bullet" that it would "come on like a well trained rhinoceros". I think you've found the load with what you already posted on the 230. I'd bet at 850, it will do everything we need a 1911 to do and more.

[Jim Watson]

Jeff Cooper also liked the truncated cone. Reports are that it penetrates deeper and straighter than roundnose. There is one company making flatpointed safari rifle bullets on that basis.

[5pins]

5pins,

If you are able, I think it would be very useful to see what that 230 grain loaded to hardball velocity (800-850 fps) does in terms of gel penetration. I would guess it does great and that it gives a real boost to what we're used to with .45 ACP ball. Many years ago (1960s, I think) Jeff Cooper wrote that if the .45 ACP was loaded to "100 foot seconds faster with a proper combat bullet" that it would "come on like a well trained rhinoceros". I think you've found the load with what you already posted on the 230. I'd bet at 850, it will do everything we need a 1911 to do and more.

I'll have to give it a try and see. I expect it will do pretty well. I wouldn't mind finding some FMJ flat points and trying them also.

[Wayne Dobbs]

Just to keep it real, use the original powder and charge of M1911 ball: 5.0 Bullseye

[Johnny Walker]

I'll have to give it a try and see. I expect it will do pretty well. I wouldn't mind finding some FMJ flat points and trying them also.

5pins, were you ever able to move forward with this as Wayne had suggested?

[5pins]

5pins, were you ever able to move forward with this as Wayne had suggested?

I have not. In fact, I had forgotten all about it.