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    On Tonys reccomendation, I have a wing claw 2.5, PTD loops, wide set. It is the only holster I have ever had that allows me to carry AIWB. I have one for a Shield, and another for an M&P 2.0 compact. I rarely carry the shield anymore, as the compact in this holster is very comfortable, and I shoot it much better. You have to try it, and the smallest adjustment in height or position can make a huge difference. I use a Graith specialist belt, and that made a huge difference as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob45 View Post
    On Tonys reccomendation, I have a wing claw 2.5, PTD loops, wide set.
    That exact set up is what I have settled on as my personal standard. It works very very very well for me.



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    First AIWB Holster

    A few thoughts:

    1. AIWB carry is a skill that takes time to master. Not hours or days, but months or even years. Initially, plan on this carry method feeling very wrong.
    2. AIWB can be very comfortable. I've hiked for days in rugged terrain with a P-07 or even a Glock 20 carried AIWB. I prefer AIWB to strong-side IWB, comfort-wise.
    3. There are a lot of variables in AIWB carry: Gun, holster, pants, belt, and most importantly your body type. Here are some things that help my carry work:

    -enough holster below the belt to keep the top of the gun from tipping out. The top of the gun must be pushed in to your body for this carry method to work.
    -not so long a rig that it digs into your leg
    -nice soft wedge pad in just the right place
    -pants loose or stretchy enough that they don't push the muzzle toward your body (makes the top of the gun tip out)
    -pants with the right rise--not too low, not too high
    -belt that is stiff enough, but flexible
    -holster not too wide for your waist size (JMCK AIWB 2.0 is too wide for me, but the 2.5 is just right)
    -maximizing concealment requires a lot of other variables that I don't have time to write about not, but the 2.5 with wide pattern PDT loops is the best I've found.

    ***safety issues related to AIWB carry should be obvious. A lot has been written here about that, and getting training is a great idea***
    Last edited by Clusterfrack; 02-15-2020 at 11:06 AM.
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    I agree with Clusterfrack on everything he said except the need for a Soft wedge. Yes, they feel good right away but in my experience a hard wedge can be just as comfortable once your body adjusts to it. Initially it may cause a sore spot but within a week you should adjust to the pressure and stop noticing it. I did anyway. My first AIWB was an Eidolon and now I'm using a Sagax Lux, both featuring hard wedges, and I don't even notice either one even with extended driving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clusterfrack View Post
    A few thoughts:

    1. AIWB carry is a skill that takes time to master. Not hours or days, but months or even years. Initially, plan on this carry method feeling very wrong.
    2. AIWB can be very comfortable. I've hiked for days in rugged terrain with a P-07 or even a Glock 20 carried AIWB. I prefer AIWB to strong-side IWB, comfort-wise.
    3. There are a lot of variables in AIWB carry: Gun, holster, pants, belt, and most importantly your body type. Here are some things that help my carry work:

    -enough holster below the belt to keep the top of the gun from tipping out. The top of the gun must be pushed in to your body for this carry method to work.
    -not so long a rig that it digs into your leg
    -nice soft wedge pad in just the right place
    -pants loose or stretchy enough that they don't push the muzzle toward your body (makes the top of the gun tip out)
    -pants with the right rise--not too low, not too high
    -belt that is stiff enough, but flexible
    -holster not too wide for your waist size (JMCK AIWB 2.0 is too wide for me, but the 2.5 is just right)
    -maximizing concealment requires a lot of other variables that I don't have time to write about not, but the 2.5 with wide pattern PDT loops is the best I've found.

    ***safety issues related to AIWB carry should be obvious. A lot has been written here about that, and getting training is a great idea***
    Quote Originally Posted by GearFondler View Post
    I agree with Clusterfrack on everything he said except the need for a Soft wedge. Yes, they feel good right away but in my experience a hard wedge can be just as comfortable once your body adjusts to it. Initially it may cause a sore spot but within a week you should adjust to the pressure and stop noticing it. I did anyway. My first AIWB was an Eidolon and now I'm using a Sagax Lux, both featuring hard wedges, and I don't even notice either one even with extended driving.
    I'm on both sides of the fence but as @Clusterfrack says, the clothing and the belt have a lot to do with it.

    First off, imho there is no "perfect" holster, just different degrees of excellence among the top tier offerings.

    For example, I have AIWB holsters from JMCK, DSG, Mastermind and most recently, Tenicor. Each is excellent in its own right but not necessarily perfect with each article of clothing depending on the factors @Clusterfrack mentioned...which include rise, fabric, belt loop position and the belt itself.

    All of my holsters feature "foam" wedges but for the Tenicor. I'm comfortable with all of them but I can tell and appreciate the nuance and differences when I switch from one to another. And, along with that, the slightest variable in positioning inbound or outbound, (toward 12 o'clock or away), also makes a great deal of difference in comfort and concealment.

    In truth, no matter the recommendation that any of us with years of experience carrying AIWB can share, it all comes down to how a given holster fits your body, choice of clothing and ability to reliably draw from concealment.

    The best advice is to buy from one of the reputable makers whose name comes up repeatedly in these discussions. They're there for good reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pangloss View Post
    That exact set up is what I have settled on as my personal standard. It works very very very well for me
    it did for me too, and I recommend it often since the investment is relatively low, but the 5-shot Leather SME is the business, for me, and the weapons I carry, which are 92 variants. It is just superb.

    I use a jmck aiwb mag carrier for the reload. I used the clip for a long while but went to PTD loops and prefer them.

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