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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage Hands View Post
    So this or Agency?
    For my M&Ps, this.

    Just checked Agency's site, the AOS still isn't available for the M&P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage Hands View Post
    So this or Agency?

    For a Glock 🙂

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    A definite step in the right direction, but I still wager we are nowhere near having 1913 rail type adoption levels as .MIL didn't birth this upon the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage Hands View Post
    For a Glock 🙂
    To me the Agency appears to have some options and features that this new Unity doesn't.
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    Thinking out loud - I wonder if this would be an easier and more cost effective way to mount a dot on a P30, if compatible. Obviously we don't know the price, but it seems like a less complicated machining process to my untrained eye. Maybe @Mark Housel or other potentially privy members would have thoughts? Or maybe I'm way off base.

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    Congratulations Trent, this looks really cool.

    This new design does seem to address some of the slide width and side profile complications around the original ATOM adapter design and should make it more flexible in that regard. It also appears to be a simpler machining problem to solve. Well for us that don't have 4+ axis CNC machines anyway.

    WRT to HK slides it might provide something depending on whether the 'key' feature milled into the slide doesn't interfere with, or can made to accommodate the firing pin block and roll pin holes that make the HK slides more difficult to install optics on.

    Trent is a really clever guy so if there is a way I'm sure he will figure it out.

    The integral rear sight as shown seems to be limited to a plain black sight since the fore/aft dimension looks too thin to take a Tritium vial. Of course that may well be in the works.

    The same problems remain WRT optics that have different 'deck heights' since the rear sight height needs to vary to maintain a consistent engagement in the optic window (or even be visible in the case of the DP Pro). So front sight would need to be varied to accommodate the taller/shorter integral rear sight.
    Also, the height relationships between rear and front sights vary wildly across slide models, calibers, etc. All variables that get taken into account in installing an optic on a slide.

    Like any integral rear sight solution (e.g. Trijicon 1911 RMR adapter) on slides with out a windage adjustable (dovetail) front sight may not have much in the way of windage zero control. This is primarily Glock, CZ and Walther.

    This presumes that a precise zero of the irons is even required.

    These take nothing away from Trent's design and are just things that need to be solved for backup sights on optics equipped pistols.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Housel View Post
    Congratulations Trent, this looks really cool.

    This new design does seem to address some of the slide width and side profile complications around the original ATOM adapter design and should make it more flexible in that regard. It also appears to be a simpler machining problem to solve. Well for us that don't have 4+ axis CNC machines anyway.

    WRT to HK slides it might provide something depending on whether the 'key' feature milled into the slide doesn't interfere with, or can made to accommodate the firing pin block and roll pin holes that make the HK slides more difficult to install optics on.

    Trent is a really clever guy so if there is a way I'm sure he will figure it out.

    The integral rear sight as shown seems to be limited to a plain black sight since the fore/aft dimension looks too thin to take a Tritium vial. Of course that may well be in the works.

    The same problems remain WRT optics that have different 'deck heights' since the rear sight height needs to vary to maintain a consistent engagement in the optic window (or even be visible in the case of the DP Pro). So front sight would need to be varied to accommodate the taller/shorter integral rear sight.
    Also, the height relationships between rear and front sights vary wildly across slide models, calibers, etc. All variables that get taken into account in installing an optic on a slide.

    Like any integral rear sight solution (e.g. Trijicon 1911 RMR adapter) on slides with out a windage adjustable (dovetail) front sight may not have much in the way of windage zero control. This is primarily Glock, CZ and Walther.

    This presumes that a precise zero of the irons is even required.

    These take nothing away from Trent's design and are just things that need to be solved for backup sights on optics equipped pistols.
    Thanks for the perspective Mark!

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    https://www.boresightsolutions.com/p...45-acp-pistol/

    First gun i've seen in the wild that was milled for this cut. Hopefully that changes and we see some shops offering it up. It's been long enough I had written it off as not coming to market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by backtrail540 View Post
    https://www.boresightsolutions.com/p...45-acp-pistol/

    First gun i've seen in the wild that was milled for this cut. Hopefully that changes and we see some shops offering it up. It's been long enough I had written it off as not coming to market.
    I’ve been waiting for this to come to market. As a slow learner, last year I finally came to the conclusion that an RDS on my carry gun makes sense for my aging eyes. Took shooting my sons G34.5 with a dot to get there. The kid is smarter than his old man. With MOS Glocks being ridiculously overpriced due to the current state of affairs, I has hoping to go the ATOM 2.0 route on my G19.3. Failing the ATOM 2.0, is the AOS viable or should I just get the slide milled for a direct mount? Is ATEI still THE choice for direct mill?


    Thanks!

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