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    Quote Originally Posted by Lester Polfus View Post
    I hate to say it, but I'm pretty sure the Navy will fuck this up.
    Sorry Man, I had my ships mixed up!
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    Were these researchers in China collecting data or are we relying on the honesty of the communist party?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAZ View Post
    Were these researchers in China collecting data or are we relying on the honesty of the communist party?
    You know what I know, which is why I put it there hoping for comments from people who know a lot more than me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TAZ View Post
    Were these researchers in China collecting data or are we relying on the honesty of the communist party?
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondering Beard View Post
    You know what I know, which is why I put it there hoping for comments from people who know a lot more than me.
    So, what you're saying, in effect, is that you get to choose your truth...one from column A, two from column B. The more things change the more they stay the same.

    (This has been your corona virus smile (from me at least) for the day. Carry on and prosper.)
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    Cough and fever are the most common presenting symptoms per the 44k patient study out of Wuhan published a month ago, but there are a few other symptoms that are less common but have been seen with COVID 19. Anecdotally there is a very wide range of symptoms that SARS CoV2 can produce, including nausea/vomiting/diarrhea, nasal congestion, myocardial injury presenting as a heart attack, and on and on.

    Right now all our clinical knowledge about this virus feels incredibly anecdotal. It's frustrating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shootist26 View Post
    https://www.app.com/story/news/2020/...ek/5087372002/
    If you know anything about the demographics of Lakewood NJ, rest assured that these massive gatherings are going to continue happening.
    put a 100' high wall around lakewood, and leave them to their own devices until this is all settled down.
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    In just 4 weeks, look at what the US death toll has grown to. And look at the backlog of critical cases we have to get some insight into the death toll in the next month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyGBiv View Post
    This was the Surgeon General on Fox this morning.
    I'm sure I have confirmation bias on this subject, but, he gives 4 (?) reasons for not wearing a mask.
    I heard.... BS... BS.... BS... Real Reason.

    YMMV.

    Surgeon General: Data doesn't back up wearing masks in public amid coronavirus pandemic
    Yeah, the US Surgeon General lacks a certain smoothness in the delivery of his B.S. and is as transparent as glass in that regard. Translation: "Don't buy any more masks or PPEs 'cause they're actually quite effective and we want them."

    There's a reason that medical personnel wear masks and we all know why; they mitigate the transmission of infectious viruses/bacteria.

    Given that the US government's stated goal is to ''flatten the curve'' by mitigating transmission of infectious agents—one would think that he'd be encouraging EVERYONE to ''mask up'' and right now.

    I don't know what the US Surgeon General thinks of ''we, the people'', but his language hints strongly at what that might be.
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    The Surgeon General lost me as a potential supporter the first time he decided to get political with his comments in addressing the media. Bad move and way too transparent in regard to who pulls his strings.
    There's nothing civil about this war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the Schwartz View Post
    Yeah, the US Surgeon General lacks a certain smoothness in the delivery of his B.S. and is as transparent as glass in that regard. Translation: "Don't buy any more masks or PPEs 'cause they're actually quite effective and we want them."

    There's a reason that medical personnel wear masks and we all know why; they mitigate the transmission of infectious viruses/bacteria.

    Given that the US government's stated goal is to ''flatten the curve'' by mitigating transmission of infectious agents—one would think that he'd be encouraging EVERYONE to ''mask up'' and right now.

    I don't know what the US Surgeon General thinks of ''we, the people'', but his language hints strongly at what that might be.
    The relative importance of a mask is very different in the healthcare setting, where you are by definition going to be exposed directly to large amounts of virus all day, every day, vs. out in the world where the risk of exposure is relatively much lower and can be mitigated in other ways (physical distancing etc).

    Healthcare providers especially need to wear surgical/procedural masks because they are extremely likely to be infected and thus very likely to give the virus to other patients in the hospital. Given that the only non-COVID patients in the hospital right now are very sick, it is extremely important that healthcare providers not spread the virus to them.

    As an important reminder, surgical masks do a poor job of protecting the user from aerosol droplets carrying the virus. They do, however, do a good job of keeping your own bugs from getting into the air around you. If you think you may be sick, please wear one. If you don't, know that it is unlikely to confer you much protection from airborne droplets. It won't meaningfully prevent you from giving it to yourself via a contaminated surface, either.

    N95s will filter the air you breathe but are hard to wear for extended periods of time and somewhat wasted if you make a reasonable effort to keep yourself far from other people. If you have to be around a lot of other people and have N95s on hand, they're not an unreasonable precaution. Healthcare workers need these very badly because they are constantly exposed to the virus. If you have a supply for yourself, use them judiciously.

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