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    Quote Originally Posted by blues View Post
    You're young, Dan. Ride it out. Keep on buying on your schedule and you'll be happy you did when it comes time to hand in your paperwork. I've been through more than a few "interesting" rides since the mid 80's and have stuck to my plan throughout.
    Yeah, I remember 2008 vividly, My annunity fund lost about $20,000... that hurt..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph View Post
    Yeah, I remember 2008 vividly, My annuity fund lost about $20,000... that hurt..
    I was down a lot more than that but used the opportunity to take some paper losses, consolidate those several funds and IRAs under the umbrella of one company, and reinvest all the proceeds in just a few funds and carry on.

    We're far better off for it, even being retired, with our net worth being the best it's ever been, (until the last day or two), and no debt.

    The message being that it is important to stay disciplined and not allow fear to rule one's decision making.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph View Post
    Yup, down another 335 points and dropping, as I type this...looks like the world supply chain is imploding, from what I’ve been reading workers in China are refusing to go back to work for fear of getting infected or possibly reinfected.. Not to mention there are still huge areas that are still under quarantine..This is a good lesson for all those corporations who put all their eggs in the cheap China labor basket... I figure we’re going to see a long overdue correction here on Wall Street...
    This is probably what the overpriced market was waiting for, an excuse to correct. I'm with you on this, it could get very ugly for investors and the US economy in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hufnagel View Post
    300 ?
    “Remember, being healthy is basically just dying as slowly as possible,” Ricky Gervais

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    Quote Originally Posted by blues View Post
    You're young, Dan. Ride it out. Keep on buying on your schedule and you'll be happy you did when it comes time to hand in your paperwork. I've been through more than a few "interesting" rides since the mid 80's and have stuck to my plan throughout.
    That's the only way to invest in the market. I was always a buyer, never a seller. Well, actually I did sell some one time to put an addition on our house but that money was invested in our house which we still own so I really never sold, just moved the investment into long term real estate.

    I'm now pulling money out as the IRS says I have to. They want the income tax on it before I just give it away to a relative and dodge the inheritance tax.

    Cost averaging is the way to go. Don't get spooked by a market crash. If you never sell anything it's just a paper loss and the market always manages to recover. Seen two crashes myself. Scares the hell out of young people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph View Post
    Yup, down another 335 points and dropping, as I type this...looks like the world supply chain is imploding, from what I’ve been reading workers in China are refusing to go back to work for fear of getting infected or possibly reinfected.. Not to mention there are still huge areas that are still under quarantine..This is a good lesson for all those corporations who put all their eggs in the cheap China labor basket... I figure we’re going to see a long overdue correction here on Wall Street...
    Is it all over reaction, appropriate reaction . . . or something else . . . here is Rush's take on it:

    RUSH: Folks, this coronavirus thing, I want to try to put this in perspective for you. It looks like the coronavirus is being weaponized as yet another element to bring down Donald Trump. Now, I want to tell you the truth about the coronavirus. (interruption) You think I’m wrong about this? You think I’m missing it by saying that’s… (interruption) Yeah, I’m dead right on this. The coronavirus is the common cold, folks.

    . . .

    But the way it’s being used… I believe the way it’s being weaponized is by virtue of the media, and I think that it is an effort to bring down Trump, and one of the ways it’s being used to do this is to scare the investors, to scare people in business. It’s to scare people into not buying Treasury bills at auctions. It’s to scare people into leaving, cashing out of the stock market — and sure enough, as the show began today, the stock market — the Dow Jones Industrial Average — was down about 900 points, supposedly because of the latest news about the spread of the coronavirus. end quote


    Just for clarify, I'm being sarcastic but those are Rush's words. I am no fan of his.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JHC View Post
    Just for clarify, I'm being sarcastic but those are Rush's words. I am no fan of his.
    Nor am I and I think, of course, that he's just bloviating his usual swill.

    The main thing, in my view, for those who fear the markets, is to filter out all the "this time it's different" noise.

    Yes, it hurts to watch your investment portfolio drop in value. It's also nice to watch it rise back up even stronger over time. If you need the money in a relatively short period, the market is not the place for those funds. That's what certificates of deposit and bonds are for.

    If you're approaching or in retirement, then it may make sense for you to adjust your exposure to equities and up the cash and bonds portion of your portfolio. It's not rocket science but it does take a steady hand on the tiller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JHC View Post
    Is it all over reaction, appropriate reaction . . . or something else . . . here is Rush's take on it:

    RUSH: Folks, this coronavirus thing, I want to try to put this in perspective for you. It looks like the coronavirus is being weaponized as yet another element to bring down Donald Trump. Now, I want to tell you the truth about the coronavirus. (interruption) You think I’m wrong about this? You think I’m missing it by saying that’s… (interruption) Yeah, I’m dead right on this. The coronavirus is the common cold, folks.

    . . .

    But the way it’s being used… I believe the way it’s being weaponized is by virtue of the media, and I think that it is an effort to bring down Trump, and one of the ways it’s being used to do this is to scare the investors, to scare people in business. It’s to scare people into not buying Treasury bills at auctions. It’s to scare people into leaving, cashing out of the stock market — and sure enough, as the show began today, the stock market — the Dow Jones Industrial Average — was down about 900 points, supposedly because of the latest news about the spread of the coronavirus. end quote


    Just for clarify, I'm being sarcastic but those are Rush's words. I am no fan of his.
    That's pretty damn funny, I mean Rush calling it a media stunt to trash Trump's chances. The markets actually operate independently of MSM. The real reason for crashes is programed stop loss sell orders. Guaranteed to sell at a loss or limit ones gains never made a lot of sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blues View Post
    Nor am I and I think, of course, that he's just bloviating his usual swill.

    The main thing, in my view, for those who fear the markets, is to filter out all the "this time it's different" noise.

    Yes, it hurts to watch your investment portfolio drop in value. It's also nice to watch it rise back up even stronger over time. If you need the money in a relatively short period, the market is not the place for those funds. That's what certificates of deposit and bonds are for.

    If you're approaching or in retirement, then it may make sense for you to adjust your exposure to equities and up the cash and bonds portion of your portfolio. It's not rocket science but it does take a steady hand on the tiller.
    I never worry. It'll all recover. Some day.

    Or as Robert Heinlein once said, "Hey were are from tough stock. Our ancestors settled a frontier. We'll survive . . . most of us."
    “Remember, being healthy is basically just dying as slowly as possible,” Ricky Gervais

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borderland View Post
    This is probably what the overpriced market was waiting for, an excuse to correct. I'm with you on this, it could get very ugly for investors and the US economy in general.
    I checked the market, and now it’s down over 500points, still,IMO a correction..but if Friday rolls around and we’re still loosing 500-1000points a day, I’d say at that point we’re in meltdown mode..This is the price you pay for depending on one country for all your manufacturing needs, and nobody has a plan “B”..

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