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Thread: Democratic Nominee 2020 Part Deux

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    Quote Originally Posted by oakdalecurtis View Post
    The establishment wing of the Democratic party despises the Bernie/AOC radical socialist wing of their party. If Bernie has the most of delegates, but not enough to win on the first ballot, the DNC will do a harsh political calculation. The DNC will realize that the Democrats will lose badly to Trump, regardless of which weak candidate that they nominate. The DNC will then decide to just go ahead and give the nomination to Bernie via the superdelegates (which they don't have to do).
    Here's why. When Bernie goes down to a Trump landslide, and he will, the Democrats can say "See, we tried a socialist and America rejected him in spades, so let's get back to establishment candidates to give us a chance going forward." That profound loss will allow the Democrat establishment to jettison their radical wing to the back bench again.
    Another person claiming Trump would easily beat Bernie yet im not seeing evidence of that. I know some polls show that but we have seen how reliable polls are.

    I've met quite a few former Trump voters who said they would vote for Bernie over Trump if he won the nomination. Whats surprising is that I live in a very red area and some of these people have been life long republicans.

    Bernie also has a highly energetic and passionate cult following.

    I hate Bernie but we should be cautious believing he woulfld be no match for Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanye Wyoming View Post
    The one and only one consolation if Bernie wins will be seeing Larry Davidís impression of him on SNL every week.

    Perhaps another one - things will go so badly for 4 years that weíll have put socialism to bed for the next 50 years.
    Which is sad commentary on its own face. History, and the present, is replete with examples of the failures of Socialism, however, it seems that we might have to learn about those failures the hard way by directly experiencing them ourselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warped Mindless View Post

    Bernie also has a highly energetic and passionate cult following.

    I hate Bernie but we should be cautious believing he woulfld be no match for Trump.
    I think Bernie would have won the last election, had the DNC made a less overtly corrupt choice.

    This time around, itís not such a slam dunk. Bernie has suffered a bit in the image dept (mostly by being an angry rich old white guy), and Trump has exceeded many voterís expectations of himóby which I mean: a lot of nose-holding swing voters had extremely low expectations of Trump going into 2017, and he seems to have been a surprise in that regard, if not always a welcome one.

    What remains to be seen is how many of the same voters who kept their mouths shut throughout the entire campaign season, and then quietly voted for Trump have been paying attention to the D partyís behavior since then. Iíd like to think that a lot of folks have been silently observing the tantrums... but nothing surprises me these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warped Mindless View Post
    Another person claiming Trump would easily beat Bernie yet im not seeing evidence of that. I know some polls show that but we have seen how reliable polls are.

    I've met quite a few former Trump voters who said they would vote for Bernie over Trump if he won the nomination. Whats surprising is that I live in a very red area and some of these people have been life long republicans.

    Bernie also has a highly energetic and passionate cult following.

    I hate Bernie but we should be cautious believing he woulfld be no match for Trump.
    Warped, I agree, predicting the future can be tricky. I say letís put Bernie and socialism up against Trump and capitalism in a head to head and find out where Americans really stand! IF the election is an overwhelming landslide for Trump, can we finally put the socialists to bed???

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    Quote Originally Posted by the Schwartz View Post
    Which is sad commentary on its own face. History, and the present, is replete with examples of the failures of Socialism, however, it seems that we might have to learn about those failures the hard way by directly experiencing them ourselves.
    This country needs a few lessons. The first one should be in economics. Socialism will provide that because the first thing that will happen is a yuge stock market crash. Once that happens corporations will lose working capital. When the economy grinds to a halt unemployment will skyrocket. No employment, no credit to buy a car or a house. With fewer people working tax revenue will fall and social services will be cut, not enhanced. There will be no guaranteed jobs, no medicare for all and no free college tuition. Should be a fun 4 or 8 years and it will make what we have now seem like we were all living in luxury.

    Then in another 100 years we'll forget it ever happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidheshooter View Post
    I think Bernie would have won the last election, had the DNC made a less overtly corrupt choice.

    This time around, itís not such a slam dunk. Bernie has suffered a bit in the image dept (mostly by being an angry rich old white guy), and Trump has exceeded many voterís expectations of himóby which I mean: a lot of nose-holding swing voters had extremely low expectations of Trump going into 2017, and he seems to have been a surprise in that regard, if not always a welcome one.

    What remains to be seen is how many of the same voters who kept their mouths shut throughout the entire campaign season, and then quietly voted for Trump have been paying attention to the D partyís behavior since then. Iíd like to think that a lot of folks have been silently observing the tantrums... but nothing surprises me these days.

    OMMV, of course.
    A case in point is my 93 year old very conservative mother who has never voted Dem in a presidential or congressional election in her life. She is so revolted by Trumps low-life behavior and his demands for sycophantic loyalty that she absolutely will not vote for him this year. Whether she votes Dem or sits it out remains to be seen.

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    My wife just told me that Clint Eastwood has thrown his support to Bloomberg. (Somewhat surprised but not entirely. Plus I don't care who an actor pulls for.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by blues View Post
    My wife just told me that Clint Eastwood has thrown his support to Bloomberg. (Somewhat surprised but not entirely. Plus I don't care who an actor pulls for.)
    Maybe he mistook Bloomberg for an empty chair.
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    This is really off topic for this thread but the only thing I keep thinking about is who the republican candidate will be in 2024. Iím ready for the 2020 shit show to be over.
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