Democratic Nominee 2020 Part Deux

[ralph]

This country needs a few lessons. The first one should be in economics. Socialism will provide that because the first thing that will happen is a yuge stock market crash. Once that happens corporations will lose working capital. When the economy grinds to a halt unemployment will skyrocket. No employment, no credit to buy a car or a house. With fewer people working tax revenue will fall and social services will be cut, not enhanced. There will be no guaranteed jobs, no medicare for all and no free college tuition. Should be a fun 4 or 8 years and it will make what we have now seem like we were all living in luxury.

Then in another 100 years we'll forget it ever happened.

I couldn’t agree with you more, after 4-8 years of having ol’ Bern at the wheel, I think this country will have had enough of communism.. Trouble is with communism, you can vote your way in, but you’ll likely have to shoot your way out..Communism will not go peacefully, nor will it go willingly, it’ll have to be run out at the point of a rifle barrel..

Speaking of economics, I was watching a vid this morning that suggested that the Corona virus in China is way worse that they want to admit, and the effect on the supply chain in the very near future, they think is going to be dramatic, last week for example, I saw an article on zerohedge, where Jaguar/Land Rover were looking at closing some plants temporarily,because they were running out of Chinese made car parts...And, the plants that were making them, were shut down..Oh well, that’s what happens when you put all your eggs in one basket.. Expect the same to happen here to companies heavily invested in China..

[Joe in PNG]

At this point, it's kind of obvious that if the Dems can't get together behind someone who isn't Bernie soon, he'll get the nomination.

But the Dem field is pretty much that dinner scene from "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom".

[Bergeron]

I'd like to point out the implication of "down-ballot" effects. Regardless of my party affiliation, I have tended to prefer divided government, and I think that's not uncommon.

I do wonder how the electorate will vote for House and Senate representation if Bernie is the nominee, and how that would change if a more centrist Dem gets the nomination.

I think that Bernie attracts "anti-establishment" voteers in a somewhat similar fashion that Trump did back in '16. I still think that everyone in the race will be staying in it as long as finances will hold- and to me, that means that we'll get some drop-outs after Super Tuesday ends, and that it'll be a month-long grind after that happens.

[blues]

I'd like to point out the implication of "down-ballot" effects. Regardless of my party affiliation, I have tended to prefer divided government, and I think that's not uncommon.

I often feel that way as well. Less likely for any one party to "have their way" to one extreme or another.

[Borderland]

At this point, it's kind of obvious that if the Dems can't get together behind someone who isn't Bernie soon, he'll get the nomination.

But the Dem field is pretty much that dinner scene from "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom".

538 seems to think Bernie will be the dem candidate after he crushed everyone in NV. I think his chances are better than 50/50, maybe 60/40 now. He'll have the lion's share of the minority vote simply because he's pro labor. Although he's the best known socialist millionaire he talks a good game to the unwashed masses. I know a few millennials that will vote for him.

[Joe in PNG]

538 seems to think Bernie will be the dem candidate after he crushed everyone in NV. I think his chances are better than 50/50, maybe 60/40 now. He'll have the lion's share of the minority vote simply because he's pro labor. Although he's the best known socialist millionaire he talks a good game to the unwashed masses. I know a few millennials that will vote for him.

And, as per my point above, he's running on more than just "Beat Trump".

[Baldanders]

I often feel that way as well. Less likely for any one party to "have their way" to one extreme or another.

This is pretty much how I always feel.

Is there a label for this belief system?

Obstructionist? 😎

[blues]

This is pretty much how I always feel.

Is there a label for this belief system?

Obstructionist? 😎

Middle of the road. Moderate. Even keeled. Temperate. I dunno.

[Baldanders]

Middle of the road. Moderate. Even keeled. Temperate. I dunno.

I doubt anyone would buy those descriptors applied to me. 😈

But I do find myself feeling more "centrist" than I ever have before. Aside from 2A issues, where I unabashedly call myself an extremist. ("To the right of the NRA" is usually how I put it.)

Issues where I would have been considered left (social) in college are now to the right/center of the Democratic party, and issues where I would have been considered right (economic freedom) are pretty middle-of-the-road now, at least compared to laissez-faire or actual socialism(in the true meaning of "the state controls the means of production.") I believe in fairly unfettered capitalism with a decent social safety net and services.

[Totem Polar]

*"To the right of the NRA"

*fairly unfettered capitalism

*with a decent social safety net and services.

Add a shot of craft whisky (ey) and a live and let live approach to our bedrooms and free speech, and we can totally hang out.