Shadow Systems MR920

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Lifted from the Shadow Systems website:

The strongest, deepest screw placement in the industry

Ron Jeremy begs to differ...


Sorry, I just can't help myself sometimes....

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A couple more pics.

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I'm not to sure about the new design. I really like the MR918 and it has some advantages in the event you have a parts failure. Glock parts will fit in a pinch and get you back up and running.

I understand they wanted to design the pistol like their own, rather than just improving on the Glock design, but becoming more proprietary isn't always a good thing.

I'm gonna stick with the MR918 for now, or until they stop producing it.

FWIW I never had any holster fitments issues, including duty holsters. Everything I use is Kydex specifically for the 19, and my MR fits just fine in all of them. The MR918 beavertail worked perfectly for me and others I know with them. I am wondering if this new extended and upswept one is going to cause clearance issues with Safariland ALS hoods.

I do like the beveling, but not reducing the slide width in the front. I also like the new slide release design, but that about it for me.



TXPO

[Tokarev]

I'm not to sure about the new design...Glock parts will fit in a pinch and get you back up and running.

I understand they wanted to design the pistol like their own, rather than just improving on the Glock design, but becoming more proprietary isn't always a good thing.




TXPO

I tend to agree that departing from the traditional design isn't necessarily the best approach especially when the aftermarket is flooded with pretty much any conceivable replacement part. With that said, I am interested in the red dot mounting solution. If I can mount and/or change optics without buying adapter plates it should be a good thing. Also, it is my understanding that the extractor is unchanged so parts commonality shouldn't really be impacted. That's just a guess at this point since I haven't seen one of the new guns yet.

In the meantime, here's a video from the SHOT media day:

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MR918s are on sale at Sportsman’s Outdoor Superstore for lower than I’ve ever seen. Maybe they are being phased out for the MR920.

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Additional SHOT coverage:

https://www.military.com/daily-news/...-new-take.html

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[Tokarev]

but becoming more proprietary isn't always a good thing.

I do like the beveling, but not reducing the slide width in the front. I also like the new slide release design, but that about it for me.

In light of recent disputes over "trade dress" a cosmetic redesign is probably a good idea. Whether Shadow did this to avoid potential problems or simply because they wanted to it will hopefully be a good thing.

Trade dress is a funny deal and I'll admit I don't understand it. Ruger is apparently suing S&W over trade dress violations of the 10/22. This seems odd to me when I assume Colt could make a similar claim that Ruger (and S&W for that matter) have stolen their intellectual property with various 1911 clones. Same deal with the M&P15 and AR556 rifles.


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[Texaspoff]

In light of recent disputes over "trade dress" a cosmetic redesign is probably a good idea. Whether Shadow did this to avoid potential problems or simply because they wanted to it will hopefully be a good thing.

Trade dress is a funny deal and I'll admit I don't understand it. Ruger is apparently suing S&W over trade dress violations of the 10/22. This seems odd to me when I assume Colt could make a similar claim that Ruger (and S&W for that matter) have stolen their intellectual property with various 1911 clones. Same deal with the M&P15 and AR556 rifles.


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Point well made. I know this is becoming quite an issue in the industry. Several Shops have been patenting their specific modification designs to prevent other from doing them. I can see where this could be an issue for Shadow and others that might have something too close to the original.



TXPO

[Tokarev]

Point well made. I know this is becoming quite an issue in the industry. Several Shops have been patenting their specific modification designs to prevent other from doing them. I can see where this could be an issue for Shadow and others that might have something too close to the original.



TXPO

Frankly I'm surprised Glock is not making a stink about this. Can Glock's sales be that huge that boutique copies are no threat?

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Can Glock's sales be that huge that boutique copies are no threat?

Yes; yes they are...

[Tokarev]

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