The USN vs. the UFOs

[JDD]

Ah, well I typically need little to no coaxing to share an opinion. You can just ask.

I find it highly unlikely that we are the sole intelligent life in the infinite. If we overlap with anyone else in both time and space is another matter. I'll require some proof on the matter, so as of now I don't believe we've been visited. I certainly don't believe the US Gov't would be able to keep it's collective mouth shut if they had proof.

I could not agree more.

I don't want to provide a quote that can be taken out of context, but the Drake Equation strongly supports the idea of intelligent life occurring elsewhere in our galaxy. An extraordinarily small chance event will eventually occur if you roll the dice enough times. That said, space is big, and the odds that humanity will ever encounter intelligent life are doomed by our understanding of physics*, and the same vast numbers that make life somewhere, sometime likely. Faster than light travel would change things somewhat, but...

My personal theory (supported by the energy requirements associated with interstellar travel) is that any first contact event is going to be apparent worldwide and traumatic for humanity at best, like Cortez arrival in Mexico. The idea that aliens would travel however far and spend quite a bit of effort avoiding notice just to play peek-a-boo games is hard to support.

[BehindBlueI's]

A Navy pilot took a photo of a ufo with his personal cell phone.

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Actual photo is not nearly as impressive. See: https://www.thedebrief.org/leaked-ph...ial-phenomena/

[Joe S]

The numbers are genuinely astronomical. I believe that I once saw a statistic that even if there were 10,000 intelligent species in our galaxy, each could occupy 10,000 star systems before they would bump into each other.

That is a statistical average, not a deterministic certainty. Also, it assumes a random distribution, which IMO, is a big assumption without specific justification.

[Otaku.edc]

Actual photo is not nearly as impressive. See: https://www.thedebrief.org/leaked-ph...ial-phenomena/

That’s not the photo that is being referenced, per the article:

[feudist]

They can cross interstellar space, but can't avoid being seen by coonasses, desert rats, Appalachian hillbillys, or radar.

Plus, they crash. And are oddly fixated on anal probing.

Huh.

[Totem Polar]

On the idea of intelligent life visiting earth and choosing to remain unnoticed:

Theoretically the same reason that I don’t take off my tux jacket after a recital, put some Gorecki on the CD player, make myself a Manhattan with high west double rye, and then try to announce my presence to a squirrel and a crow fighting over an acorn outside my front window.

JMO. Assuming aliens were visiting, of course.

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I worked with a guy who said he was abducted by aliens. Off work he could sometimes be found at the grocery trying to convince the employees to free the bottled water.

[BehindBlueI's]

That’s not the photo that is being referenced, per the article:

My fault, then. I still bet when it's released it's closer to that photo then the artist's rendition.

[AMC]

On the idea of intelligent life visiting earth and choosing to remain unnoticed:

Theoretically the same reason that I don’t take off my tux jacket after a recital, put some Gorecki on the CD player, make myself a Manhattan with high west double rye, and then try to announce my presence to a squirrel and a crow fighting over an acorn outside my front window.

JMO. Assuming aliens were visiting, of course.

I gotta say...that does sound like quite an evening.

[Totem Polar]

I gotta say...that does sound like quite an evening.

It happens in that exact fashion, from time to time. The only thing missing is aliens. And hookers. And alien hookers...