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Thread: Something to keep an eye out for: Hydra-Shok Deep .380

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    Something to keep an eye out for: Hydra-Shok Deep .380

    I have no info other than that Federal is releasing a 380 load that is reported to reach 12" in gel both with any without heavy clothing. If the load is reasonably priced and delivers consistent performance it should be a "game changer."

    No info yet on weight, velocity, barrel used, etc. Will update when possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45dotACP View Post
    If the numbers are good out of a LCP I'm down to clown.

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    Interesting they’re expanding what is considered to be an outdated old school design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    Interesting they’re expanding what is considered to be an outdated old school design.
    Hydra-Shok Deep is pretty new and is an update to the legacy Hydra-Shok.

    Up to this point it has only been available in 9mm, 40 S&W and 45 Auto.

    If the 380 load works like they're advertising it should be THE choice for pocket pistols and will hopefully lead to other stuff like a 38 Special.

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    Interested in this one, as well.

    FWIW, TFB mentioned 99 gr, 1000 fps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gater View Post
    TFB mentioned 99 gr, 1000 fps.
    Seems a bit fast for a 2.75" barrel. I guess we'll see...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokarev View Post
    If the 380 load works like they're advertising it should be THE choice for pocket pistols and will hopefully lead to other stuff like a 38 Special.
    I agree. The only .380 I own is an LCP I and I don't trust it for anything, so that's a no go. Proper ammo makes me want to consider a GLOCK 42, as it's lighter / smaller than my 43, though I wonder how it compares to my P938 which is also smaller than my 43.

    I'm assuming that Federal will make the ammo more accessible / affordable than the Hornady offering, which seems to be the go-to load for .380s today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokarev View Post
    Seems a bit fast for a 2.75" barrel. I guess we'll see...
    .380 99gr HST averages 925fps from the Kahr P380:
    http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/2...omparison.html

    I wish the major manufacturers would work on getting a SAAMI .380 +P standardized. Current SAAMI is for .380 is 100 years old, and at 21kpsi, is 5kpsi lower then .25 ACP.

    Underwood has been loading .380 +P's for ~7 years, and they have proven safe out of the all the modern locked breach pocket pistols (P380, LCP, Taurus.)

    Standard Underwood .380+p is 90gr @ 1125fps from a LCP.

    Paired with a limited expansion projectile (XTP, FTX, Hydrashok deep) that keep expansion around 0.45", a .380 +P would solve the current lack of penetration / expansion we see with .380.

    Underwood .380 +P XTP makes it 15":
    https://youtu.be/6F5rPTHcrmg?t=324

    That said, I'm hopeful for the Hydrashok deep.

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