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    Quote Originally Posted by vcdgrips View Post
    "1. There is no way AOC is smart enough to pull this off on her own or to even think of this on her own. Who is pulling the strings?"


    How smart does she have to be to think-I am riding a wave right now, we should fund raise and keep the money for ourselves since the Dem Machine tried to squash me the first go round and dismissed me as a lightweight. Noting to herself that she was outspent 18+ to 1 (195k v. 3.6 million) and managed to beat her longtime Irish Catholic male opponent by 15% despite his endorsements from all the sitting DEM pols in NY.

    I find it moderately intriguing how quick many are to denigrate (re intellectual prowess and otherwise) those public figures ( it goes beyond politics imho) whose stated beliefs do not comport with our world view yet how tolerant we are of those public figures whose stated beliefs DO comport with our own.


    I think your premise is flawed-both she and the "Justice Democrats" with whom she associates are smart enough to do this and more.
    You make a really good point. I like to think that I'm not judging her intelligence based solely on her ideology but maybe I am. I've been around enough to know better than to underestimate "the bad guys". It's very possible that I need to check myself on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeepingAngel View Post
    This. Hell they got her elected twice (did y’all know that AOC actually won in two different races? She took the best seat of the 2...) Folks, I have been following TYT long enough to have seen Cenk being blown away by his own channel’s polls after the DNC fucked Bernie and the voters, and then declaring war on the Dem establishment, and rightfully so.

    I dislike AOC’s platform, but I like her moxie. I have a soft spot in my heart for idealistic college kids.

    As is often the case, @JodyH has a tactical grasp of the sitch. The "old guard," collectively needs to be put in the dirt; they’re bad for America, and they’re bad for the dem party. I wish the justice dems luck. I won’t be voting for them, but I respect their willingness to go to war against their own party in an effort to fix things. They are looking at the party elite’s perpetual hand-jobbing of each other the same way a bunch of us look at WLP and the NRA board’s mutual weenie-pulling.

    And, they are currently too left to go much beyond upsetting the apple cart. They will fracture the vote in favor of nationalist populism as currently displayed by DJT, until somebody can step through the opening down the road and run on a more moderate platform that actually aims to empower the people with checks against the gov’t. Assuming I’m still on earth and in possession of my cognitive mechanisms, I might even vote for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidheshooter View Post

    I dislike AOC’s platform, but I like her moxie. I have a soft spot in my heart for...
    You're not fooling anyone...



    And dare I say you may have used the wrong adjective, professor.
    There's nothing civil about this war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidheshooter View Post
    This. Hell they got her elected twice (did y’all know that AOC actually won in two different races? She took the best seat of the 2...) Folks, I have been following TYT long enough to have seen Cenk being blown away by his own channel’s polls after the DNC fucked Bernie and the voters, and then declaring war on the Dem establishment, and rightfully so.

    I dislike AOC’s platform, but I like her moxie.
    She won two primaries. The one she was running in on a shoestring budget and the other as a write in candidate. She can get people to participate in the electoral process in large numbers. What's amazing about this is that Democrat voter apathy played a huge roll Donald Trump's election, bottom line is that Hilary Clinton was so terrible that she could not get Democrats that voted for Barak Obama to bother to go the polls. 2020 is shaping up for the Dems to run a boring ass old white dude for president. They have a rock star that has the social networking to get young people to vote, and they lock her out.

    AOC doesn't need that money, but the DNC really needs her moxie.
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    While it is technically true that she won two primaries, the "other" win was nine total votes for her, out of 22 votes cast. Even in her race with Crowley, she only beat him by 4,100 votes and received fewer than 16,000 votes, total. The Dem machine fell asleep at the switch and didn't have a chance to find extra ballot boxes.

    So she was thrust onto the national stage with fewer than 16,000 voters pulling the lever for her.

    If her district ends up getting erased in redistricting, I smell a primary challenge to Schumer in 2022. She'll finally be old enough for president/vice president in 2028. We'll see. I hope America will be tired of progressives by then.

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    One of my friends went to high school with AOC. He says she was fairly intelligent. I think many of us underestimate her intelligence just because she believes in policies we think are ridiculous.
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    #RESIST

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    I get that she's young, perky, effervescent, probably smarter than she looks, and all that jazz.

    What I don't like is the fact that her end goal is to turn the US into another failed People's Socialist Democratic Republic with her and her fellow nomenklatura getting all the nice stuff, and the rest of us getting crap.
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    https://www.factcheck.org/2019/07/me...on-vote-count/

    AOC won her primary with 16K vote cast. (56.7 %)

    AOC won her general with 110K+ votes cast. (78.2%)

    The incumbent was ripe for the picking and got picked.

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