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    Quote Originally Posted by Caballoflaco View Post
    Because it’s relevnat to OP’s geography and use situation:

    I had the security guard at the Japanese museum in San Francisco (it’s not a large museum) notice the knife clipped in my right pocket and refuse me entry unless I left it at the security office. That was surprising to a kid from Alabama who had never been questioned about a knife clip before, luckily he was so distracted with that one I was able to get the knife that was clipped on my left pocket hidden. That was tthirteen years ago when I was younger and dumber. Now I normally don’t carry any knives clipped to my pockets.
    I actually had a 60 year old woman try to grill me as to why I felt the need to have a 3.5" pocket knife clipped to my pocket once.

    Things are different on the west coast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duces Tecum View Post
    Has anybody actually needed a knife for defensive purposes?
    I brandished one once to give a suspected assailant the impression that there would be easier pickings elsewhere. (I was walking across Washington Sq. Park late at night after drinking more than I should probably have in a local bar.) The individual took the message to heart and made a hard 90 degree turn.

    I've also fought off an assailant with a knife. (He had the knife. Not me.) It did require a skin graft to my left index finger but that was the extent of it.

    Not much to speak of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blues View Post
    Interesting. The two Izulas Jeff gave us needed a solid yank to withdraw from the sheath. I wonder if they changed the production after we got ours at the Blade Show 8 or 9 years ago.
    My understanding is the original sheaths were kydex, mine was injection molded and eventually loosened over time. Nothing a custom sheath couldn’t resolve.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lester Polfus View Post
    Forgot to add:

    I also wind up carrying the folder AIWB because there's often a J-frame in my right front pocket. You can either have a J-frame in your pocket or a knife, but not both....

    As an aside, Levi 559s have pockets that are big enough for a J-frame. Is it just me or are pockets getting bigger in newer pants? Perhaps because of smart phones?

    Maybe it's been that way for a while. I only buy new clothes when my wife throws my old ones away when I'm not looking.
    I don’t carry folders at all and prefer aiwb weakside of a small fixed blade. Right now it’s a Becker/esee bk 21, which is the bk14 in d2 and unfortunately discontinued. I do really like the esee’s handle and this sheath offers a pivoting thumb stud for retention.

    And yes, Levi’s offers what they call “tech pockets” on some of their jeans. They’re extra deep and awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caballoflaco View Post
    My understanding is the original sheaths were kydex, mine was injection molded and eventually loosened over time. Nothing a custom sheath couldn’t resolve.
    Ours are / were injection molded. One I don't have anymore because I sent it one of our members here for his son.

    The one Becker I have which is sized for neck or other carry has a handle which I consider too long. It's otherwise a nice knife. Ethan is good people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lester Polfus View Post
    I spend a portion of every workday trying to help people who were sexually assaulted in the military. This makes me want to buy one for myself, and a case to send to a deployed unit.
    Right? There is a reason that J Shirley and S Owens worked so hard to get it to market.

    Quote Originally Posted by JHC View Post
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    This was open knowledge back in the pre-PF days when I was a highroad denizen. As an aside, I have a custom Sam Owens “shivver," essentially a small seax that he and John also came up with in roundabout fashion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duces Tecum View Post
    Has anybody actually needed a knife for defensive purposes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lester Polfus View Post
    Yes.
    Yes.

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    Give it a shot. If you don't like it, give it away here on the forum and I'll reimburse you the cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duces Tecum View Post
    Has anybody actually needed a knife for defensive purposes?
    Personally, no. I've got several in my case files, though. My favorite being the delivery guy who carried a fixed blade and literally gutted an armed robber in a doorway. There were two more suspects who fled at the sight of their cohort holding his intestines.
    Sorta around sometimes for some of your shitty mod needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duces Tecum View Post
    Has anybody actually needed a knife for defensive purposes?
    Yes.

    Few ill mention:

    1: Was attacked by an aggressive dog. He become much less aggressive when slashed by a kabar TDI.

    2: Once I was staying with a friend in another state and didn't have my firearm. He was at work so I walked down to a corner store to purchase some supplies. As I was leaving I noticed a man exhibiting some pre-inicident indicators start to follow in behind me. I, in a very pronounced manner, flicked open my ZT 0350 (good size folder) and pretended to clean my finger nails. He promptly went the other way.

    3: When I was 18 or so I had three guys with blunt weapons chase me into the woods threating to kill me. They were on drugs. All I had was a small slip joint folder. I remember thinking "Sure wish I had something bigger!" Luckily they didn't find me.

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    Regarding access, if you wear a tucked in shirt, a neck knife will not be as easy or fast to access as a pocket clipped folder.

    I do not see them as replacing a pocket clipped folder, but there is nothing wrong with having one in addition to that folder.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Duces Tecum View Post
    Has anybody actually needed a knife for defensive purposes?
    Yes.

    1. When I was 13 or 14 I used a brandished knife (4” Case lock-back) and all the attitude I could muster to prevent a dude from kidnapping me.

    There were two other times where sketchy folks sizing me up decided to leave when they saw me get “something” out of my pocket.

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